Euro "champions" ensure every able bodied American cab driver gets a title shot

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by RobertV77, Feb 5, 2011.


  1. herbzg

    herbzg Euro-Level Athlete Full Member

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    Well domestic stars such as Chad Dawson, Floyd Mayweather, Timothy Bradley, Devon Alexander, Andre Ward, Andre Dirrell, Andre Berto, Tavoris Cloud, Roy Jones, Bernard Hopkins, Shane Mosley, Lamont Peterson, Anthony Peterson, Gary Russell Jr, Deontay Wilder, Demetrius Andrade, Shawn Porter, Mike Jones, James Kirkland, and Fernando Guerrero are too insecure to give Euro-level athletes a chance. Don't you think these Euro-level superstars would fight domestic stars if they were given a chance? But instead, these regional grade athletes, such as the ones listed, turn down offers from European talents, so these European talents are relegated to fighting D-Grade regional talent. This is why I believe European talents should stay in Europe, and fight Euro-level talent to foster a European boxing community that thrive independently of American boxing.
     
  2. The_President

    The_President Boxing Addict banned

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    What a crap post. All of the boxers u list have whipped plenty of European ass. Hatton, Woods, Kessler, Abraham, Froch, Calzaghe, Kilt girl Vlad, Golota, have all gotten their asses whipped by the abovementioned American boxers.:goodYou are right though. Europeans are, Xenophobic. :deal
     
  3. herbzg

    herbzg Euro-Level Athlete Full Member

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    I am referring to fighters from Eastern European territories. I believe Europe's best fighters come from these regions. Most of the fighters you mentioned have come from England, this nation is known for poor and Americanized fighters. Some English fighters are worse than American fighters.

    Also, many of those fights were very controversial, which shows that even when Americans have beaten Euro-level athletes, it was never definitive.

    And tell me what American fighters beat Calzaghe and Froch please?
     
  4. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    So since becoming a champion, are you saying Roy didnt fight F Chirino a 12-7-2 fighter and then fight the outstanding D Garcia 25-11-0? :lol:. Or defend against former LW champ Pazienza :lol:.
    Did you not know what O Grant does for a living?
    Or that the amazing R Frazier was a 40 year old policeman with a record of 18-3-1 whilst coming in to challenge Jones :patsch.
    Just look at who Frazier beat to get his title shot

    1999-01-09174Roy Jones Jr175
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    Civic Center, Pensacola, Florida, United StatesLTKO212
    time: 2:59 | referee: Armando Garcia | judge: Glenn Hirch 8-10 | judge: Oren Shellenberger 8-10 | judge: Frank Skilbred 8-10
    WBC light heavyweight title
    WBA World light heavyweight title
    Frazier down in round one and two.

    1998-08-28175½Tyler Hughes174
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    Las Vegas Hilton, Las Vegas, Nevada, United StatesWMD88
    79-73 | 76-76 | 80-72

    1998-02-13177½Benjie Marquez171
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    The Pit - UNM, Albuquerque, New Mexico, United StatesWTKO310
    time: 2:07

    1997-10-07175Guy Stanford175
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    Nashville, Tennessee, United StatesWTKO7

    1997-06-21176Willie McDonald168
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    Sun Dome, Tampa, Florida, United StatesWTKO6

    1997-02-12178Darrel Johnson177
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    MSG Theater, New York, New York, United StatesWUD1010
    judge: Harold Lederman 100-89 | judge: Steve Weisfeld 100-89 | judge: Robert Gilson 99-91

    1996-10-19179Berry Butler179
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    Show Place Arena, Upper Marlboro, Maryland, United StatesWPTS88

    1996-10-11180Eric Lucas176
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    International Plaza Hotel, Toronto, Ontario, CanadaLSD1010
    referee: Dave Dunbar | judge: Frank Bullard | judge: Victor Shillolo | judge: Fern Chretien


    He loses to Lucas and then beats a few nobodies.
    Its so easy to make you look like a **** Robert :lol:
     
  5. taobum70

    taobum70 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Calzaghe never got whipped in his career, only two of his wins were close enough to be slightly controversial.

    Wlad Klitschko probably whipped 30 - 40 Americans and was beaten by two, not too bad.
     
  6. Irländsk

    Irländsk Boxing Addict banned

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    Roy Jones gave American cab drivers more title shots than all other boxers combined.
     
  7. time

    time Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Just wheel in the american for an easy night, generally they dont travel well
     
  8. RobertV77

    RobertV77 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Maybe so. If the game cleaned itself up a little on both sides of Atlantic better match ups would be easier to come by. I cannot defend a champion, paper or otherwise, defending against an opponent who is so under prepared and out classed.
     
  9. RobertV77

    RobertV77 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    All three of the defenses you mentioned are better than this opponent, plain and simple. Paz is a a beast compared to a part time middle aged electrical engineer. Are you here to defend Zavech(sic) or rip on Jones? Jones is not the topic.
     
  10. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I thought you said as champ, Jones never fought anyone of that level :patsch. Consider Jones was then considered P4P champ
    I admit Zavecks next opponent is terrible and wouldnt defend that, but then look at who Frazier went through to get a shot at a P4P #1, which is a big difference to a fighter YOU call a paper champ :smoke.

    You're too easy to school Robert