European fighters aren't 'ducked'...unless they want to be

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by HoldMyBeer, Feb 19, 2010.


  1. HoldMyBeer

    HoldMyBeer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    this is a generalisation but it seems to fit when a lot of people who use ducking to excuse a talented european fighter from making his name in the US to earn a big fight.

    i still see it on here, and of course it's on youtube a lot where people aren't so educated to the bigger picture...

    so i guess my question is....

    has ricky hatton given non-US fighters the blueprint for international success?
    amir khan has, imo, done exactly the right thing and dropped warren like a hot potato and hired roach. regardless of what fate deals him right now i don't see how that can be detrimental to his career.
    he will find his limits and how good he is instead of joining the graveyard of european fighters who are talked about in 'what if' posts because they never made big fights happen.

    i'm just getting tired of uninformed people who don't understand how boxing works trying to find excuses (imo) for their favourite fighters to not make the jump to the US and prove themselves in order to earn the big names in boxing.

    even though it isn't right that non-US fighters have to make that jump, this isn't uncommon in sports, and the only thing that i can see that sets boxing apart is that a paper belt in europe can create a lucrative niche for a small time promoter who effectively has all his eggs in only a few baskets and doesn't want to risk what he has - which can effectively be detrimental to a fighter's career.

    interested in what other people think inside and outside the US and europe.
     
  2. Round1gymDC

    Round1gymDC Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You know how in the NBA how when u first get there your a rookie regardless where your coming from, thats how I view boxing over here as well. So that would make Hatton like 5-2 in my books, the best fight here. If you play soccer(football) then the best play over seas, period.
     
  3. HoldMyBeer

    HoldMyBeer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    calzaghe was the legit SMW champ without pressing for US exposure though. considering how poor MW and LHW were at the time it wouldn't have been difficult for joe to break through and earn his shot if he wanted to. but he didn't.
    took hatton 3 fights to get front row seats and he's not as talented as calzaghe was.
     
  4. lfc18titles

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  7. PH|LLA

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    this thread would make more sense if Jeff Lacy hadn't gone 21-0 and won a title in the US and then gotten his ass trounced the first time he stepped foot in Europe.
     
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  10. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    I think its an issue about perspective. The boxing world is a lot bigger than the USA now, so fighters can build great careers for themselves, and be regarded as very good fighters, whilst only ever fighting in the US infrequently or not at all - simply because the talent pool in Europe and Asia is much larger now. You talk about "big names", but that's from an American perspective. Big names to you, might just mean "American hype jobs" or "media darlings" to a lot of other people.
     
  11. lfc18titles

    lfc18titles Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Spot on
     
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  13. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    And it works both ways. Both perspectives are flawed. The insular European one, and the inuslar American one.
     
  14. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Although, I agree in theory somewhat, it is not as pronounced as it used to be. I don't think it is that the top fighters of other nations aren't on a level with US fighters, that's not true. I think it is that their competition fight in, fight out isn't as challenging, Especially when they remain very regional. So, the questions will always remain until a guy sorts himself out.
     
  15. des3995

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