Europeans still dominate the Super Middleweight division

The unwell Kessler was good enough to beat Carl Froch which is better than anything on Lucian Bute's resume (and I like Bute)

As far as Steiglitz, though he is entertaining, most people remember him as the guy who Librado Andrade dominated winning almost every round along the way (which is very hard for the super-limited but entertaining Andrade to do). Most people assume Kessler is going to drill him when they fight.

 

If by dominate you mean as long as they stay away from Andre Ward then you are correct.

 

As soon as a few caucasian fighters become champions and/or are dominating a division, you get a few degenerates who feel the need to inject their superior race/thought process into the mix lmao. All fans love European fighters, and 95% of your facts and opinion in the above dribble is falsified information.

 

I'm from Montreal and I love Bute, but ur comparing Ward and Lacy? LoL...

 

It is obvious to me that Ward has the better opposition, he fought Kessler, Bute didnt.

 

Yep. Andre Ward and Andre Dirrell is the only somewhat sucessful Americans. Carl Froch and Lucian Bute are almost in the same spot he is in.


Shame Edison Miranda wasn't too good. Same with Jeff Lacy.

 

Finally! Someone who knows common sense. this does proof a lot. I think Bute is the best.

 

Nothing you say has any credibility. After Ward wins the super six your moronic ramblings will make even less sense. 168 is a dog **** unnecessary division to begin with. They just added it so it is easier to make paper champions in England and Germany since the fighters in both markets couldn't compete at 175 or 160.

 

Why you bring race into it?

There are black people in Europe you know!!?!?

I'm pretty sure Benn, Eubank and Watson were black and mentioned in the OP.

Whatever your thoughts on the OP point of view there is no need to turn it into some racial sh*t when there has been zero mention of it.

 

So wrong you are. Your view is very out-dated as if you have been gone for 10 years and just recently returned to earth.

Currently and over the past 5 years:

Kessler, Calzaghe, and Abraham have been making 3+ million per fight no matter who they fight. For big fights they make more. Kessler got 4 million per fight in the Super six and 5 million for the Calzaghe fight (where Calzaghe got the same) and so on.

Beyer, Mundine, Bute, and probably Froch make 1-3 million no matter who they fight.

Then there is Ward, Dirrell etc,

The division is where the fights are and you don't see 168 going anywhere these days unless they are chased out by realizing they are not competitive (like a Dave the machine Green, who is doing well in weaker divisions now).

On the contrary brave and good fighters flock to come into the 168 division - like Arthur Abraham, Jermain Taylor, Kelly Pavlik etc.

But the common theme is that no matter how good they look in the division they come from - they find that the level of opposition at 168 is crazy high.. and they usually come up short.