Europeans still dominate the Super Middleweight division

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  1. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    So you cant answer :patsch. Obviously just a bandwagon yes man, who makes comments they cant back up
     
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  2. aka TORA

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    you answed it yourself with countless dumb ass posts, im not gonna break down them all for you but for one example, if you think bute has a better resume than ward you should probably open your eyes
     
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  3. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Heres what I wrote, to start this chain of posts below

    I agree Bute hasnt fought the top guys yet but look at resumes overall

    Bute beat Bika - better than Ward,
    Miranda - better than Ward,
    Andrade twice, first time when Andrade was #3 SMW,
    Joppy,
    Zuniga, better than Cloud and Cloud beating Zuniga has put him above Dawson
    Brinkley
    Berrio - Holds a win over Steiglitz
    Magee European champ
    Mendy undefeated

    Ward has beaten
    Kessler - A very good win better than any name on Bute resume but remember that Kessler was an unwell fighter
    Miranda
    Green - who lost to Miranda
    Bika
    Abraham on a winning run of 1 injury victory and then 2 losses the last being very decisive

    Overall Bute has a better resume.
    So Tara, you still havent explained how you think Ward can have an overall better resume than Bute. You must be dumb if you cant counter my points.

    Ward has beaten Kessler, a better win than anything Bute has,
    Bute beat Miranda and Bika clearer than Ward, which nulls out those wins each.
    Then Ward has beaten Abraham who has done little as a SMW and had recently suffered 2 very clear defeats and claims himself he cant compete at SMW. B Magee is a more accomplished SMW than Abraham, so that nulls out AA. Ward beat Green who wasnt as good a SMW as Andrade who Bute beat, so that nulls out that one
    Now Bute has beaten Berrio IBF SMW champ, Andrade when #3 SMW then repeated that win, Zuniga by KO who took IBF LHW champ cloud the distance and a win that put Cloud above Dawson by the Ring, Brinkley, Joppy, Mendy.
    So do you believe that the one headbutt win over unwell double vision suffering Kessler is overall on its own greater than Andrade, Brinkley, Zuniga, Joppy, Mendy and IBF champ Berrio. Kessler is a better fighter than those 6, but as an overall for different fighters and styles one win isnt enough, especially when the other Bute victories he has are also greater than Wards.

    Get it now :patsch
     
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  4. aka TORA

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    you seem to use how one fighter performs against a shared opponent to make your mind up, when considering every boxer fights in a differnet way this is pretty ****ing pointless
    if you want to know why i think ward has a better resume look at wards last 4-5 fights compared to bute in say last 10 fights and make a rational decision, dont give me this you are ducking the question bull**** (which is clearly a deflection tactic used frequently on esb)
     
    aka TORA, Jul 11, 2011
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  5. GladiatoR

    GladiatoR Guest

    Well, Britain is made up of different countries so might as well make a new continent for it.

    It's not like it's just one country on it's own, otherwise that would be a little stupid.
     
    GladiatoR, Jul 11, 2011
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  6. PrideOfWales

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  7. WatchfortheHook

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  8. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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  9. bailey

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  11. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    Ward has beaten Kessler and AA. Those 2 wins are better than any other 168lbers resume. Euros dominate each other, but they sure as hell never dominated Ward or Dirrell.
     
    elchivito, Jul 12, 2011
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  12. zc727

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    Wow what a shock that this thread is started by a brit, quantity euros quality non euros, ward better then the rest and Bute third after Froch imo and he's not euro.
     
    zc727, Jul 12, 2011
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  13. Auracle21

    Auracle21 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    another anti american thread from failey. what a suprise. Ward is ranked one and will continue his dominance. you can hate on him all you want.
     
    Auracle21, Jul 12, 2011
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  14. MichiganWarrior

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  15. bailey

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    :patsch AA was coming off of 2 clear S6 losses and has no real SMW resume. Beyond that AA was saying before he fought Ward hes not a SMW and wanting to go back to MW. AA hasnt achieved as much at SMW as Bute victims, Magee, Berrio, Andrade, Bika etc
     
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