Evaluate the Advice Floyd Sr. gave Hatton in between rounds against Pacquiao

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  1. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    How do you know? How do you know Hatton didn't just completely ignore training?
     
  2. Whipdatass

    Whipdatass Boxing Junkie banned

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    The advice was perfect, but he was talking to Hatton.
     
  3. Whipdatass

    Whipdatass Boxing Junkie banned

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    Floyd Sr was brought in to help with Hattons defense. You can't teach an old dog new tricks. None of the Mayweathers are worth anything in your eyes you worthless troll. No, he isn't a joke of a trainer.
     
  4. JohnAnthony

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    I've not watched the full fight like that for a couple of years. And your opinions can get tainted after how that victory gets dismissed by haters and *****'s.

    Re-Watching it then just reminded me, That was the same old Hatton that dominated the 140,Just Pac was absolutely phenomenal this fight. It will be remembered as one of the defining fights of the last 10 years.

    Onto the advice. The advice was good, but looking at ricky's face nothing was going in. He looked Shell Shocked. I would probably have advised him to just relax and start hitting and holding and using every spoinling tactic in the book till the head clear.
     
  5. Brickhaus

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    It was great advice, but Hatton couldn't actually execute it.
     
  6. yakluvich

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    because hattons the one who was going into the ring to get hit on the face, he has never been a stranger to preperatyion.
     
  7. yakluvich

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    tell that to barrera or wlad klitschko or tomasz adamek.

    a good trainer knows his fighters limitations and adjusts accordingley peasant sr isnt a good trainer, his own son says so.
     
  8. Zaryu

    Zaryu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think it was good advice and probably the right advice. They were simple instructions that he should have been able to follow and get back in the fight. Anyone notice how Pac's actually leaning to his left before throwing the right hook? I think that's what was messing up Hatton's timing and he was just getting rocked with these shots that he wasn't seeing coming.

    If Ricky would have listened to Floyd Sr. he may have been able to adjust and time Pacquiao with his straight right and follow it up with a left hook or an uppercut.
     
  9. Whipdatass

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    Peasant Sr? So you're saying that other trainers would've given more helpful advice to Hatton than Senior did on the night he fought Pacquiao?
     
  10. Whipdatass

    Whipdatass Boxing Junkie banned

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    Hatton has never been a thinking man's fighter either.
     
  11. crimson

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    It is not that Hatton abandoned the game plan is that Sr treated Hatton like PBF in training camp.

    It was a faulty partnership to begin with. You can't try to radically change a fighter for one fight, especially when Sr had commitment issues during camp.

    So you can come in the 11th hour and start spouting instructions, no matter how brilliant it is.

    Sr.'s advice was right. But he should have been doing it up to 8 weeks before....
     
  12. perspicacity

    perspicacity Raising The Bar Full Member

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    It's quite a unique situation IMO.

    Taking everything into consideration I'd say Hatton at that point in time when Sr linked up with him was finished. His lifestyle had caught up with him, he struggled against Lazcano where the Hispanic actually did cause panic. Floyd Sr inherited a fighter who's world was about to cave in and Billy Graham saw it coming and called it a day. Sadly Ricky himself wouldn't accept that and paid the price.

    I'm not taking anything away from Manny Pacquiao because he on the other hand was peaking in what would be a meteoric rise from lower weights to prove he was arguably P4P the number one in the sport.

    I think Sr with his knowledge probably knew from day one, which he referred to, that there wasn't anything he nor anyone else could have done to prepare Ricky for Pacman. I'd say he most probably did as professional a job as he could have and went through the motions when all is said and done.

    Billy Graham knew it was over, Floyd Sr knew it was over, Freddy Roach knew it was gonna be over but the only one who didn't know was Ricky himself. Credit must go to Hatton because he pushed himself and wanted to fight the very best, Ricky went out on his shield.
     
  13. NotAnMMAfan

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    Sr dun no sheet bawt baxin
     
  14. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    you can't train a Glass Jaw. Hatton has one.
     
  15. Flexe

    Flexe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hatton was knocked out because his hands were below his belt line. The advice was basic, yet Hatton still didn't listen to Snr which led to the KO.