Evaluate the following statement on Canelo

cesare-borgia · Mar 7, 2011

I can see him owning at 154 and maybe even 160, he can never go above that though. 160 will be a very crowded division in a few years, staying at 154 is his best move. he can stay dare and destroy the hopes of upcoming welters.

puertorricane · Mar 7, 2011

cesare-borgia said: ↑

I can see him owning at 154 and maybe even 160, he can never go above that though. 160 will be a very crowded division in a few years, staying at 154 is his best move. he can stay dare and destroy the hopes of upcoming welters.
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He can go all the way to HW if sulaiman has a say in it

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cesare-borgia · Mar 7, 2011

puertorricane said: ↑

He can go all the way to HW if sulaiman has a say in it

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sulaiman is a ***, canelo can only have succes at 154, perhaps at 160 and a slim chance at 168 where he could pick up a paper belt.

Doc · Mar 7, 2011

BigBone said: ↑

It's a mistake to base a career-wise statement based on height and build. This is sweet science not growing competition for Chrissakes, and Canelo is just 20yo, still growing and still learning. He hasn't even grown out 147, the fight was supposed to be a 150lbs catchweight non-title fight and Alvarez was always going to return to WW with Senchenko planned for later this year. Two things happened that changed plans: his bro lost his belt at 54 so Saul set his sights on Trout, and the WBC awarded him the vacant belt so there's little chance of returning to 47 now with a unification possible, but I still wouldn't rule it out. He's physically capable to do so, he's more of a natural WW than a natural LMW.

Never base your statements on height but on reach, and Canelo has a nice reach for a LMW and not bad for a MW either, plus he knows how to use it. "He'd struggle vs. a master boxer" - duh, who wouldn't? Also, "you can't be an 5'9" come forward slugging MW HOFer" - so now the standards for a prospect is the HOF? "He'd lose to the lineal world MW champion", who's P4P#3 Maravilla now and a sure P4P-er when and who beats him? Oh ****, Canelo is f'd!

The most interesting fact is that outside of some Mexican/Mexican-American posters who followed his career no one seem to get into Alvarez's style and just categorize him as some sort of light punching Arthur Abraham. :nut The guy is an aggressive counter-puncher, he feints a lot, best at timing his punches and go for openings, of course he'll not look devestating when the opponent - say Hatton, Lovemore - won't open up for the counter left hook and therefore lose every round in surviving! Alvarez doesn't have a good lead left hook - he has a good lead right hand and a superb counter left hook that rocked Hatton and KTFO Baldomir. Put him in with a come forward puncher or boxer-puncher, and the bodies will fall.

The anti-Alvarez style is Pacquiao's, an unpredictable fast-footed all-angles mover who's very hard to time and best cutting down and drown, but then again, how many of those are out there? I say reserve our judgement at least until he grows into an adult and decides where to fight. The only thing happened recently in his progress that the WBC awarding him a paper belt, and all of the sudden this 20yo prospect is a badly overrated come forward, protected, unimpressive MW who won't beat the lineal world MW champion and won't be a HOF?

Duh?
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Sticky Please.

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UndisputedUK · Mar 7, 2011

Someone who can really dig will knock him out. I'm not sure if he was lethargic or if Matthew Hatton spoiled him, but to be honest, Ryan Rhodes in his prime would have smashed him to bits, he might even do it now.

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