Evaluating the Gennady Golovkin Situation & Initial Thoughts on Floyd vs Pacquiao

good stuff rummy, enjoyed it.

 

Agreed. I miss the days of a fighter being master at a particular weight.

Nowadays more props are given to a fighter that ghosts through multiple weights and never really challenges the most difficult fighters for them.

Styles make fights, and weight jumping you can give the illusion that you're better than you are by picking guys who have an easy style for you at the different weights.

I'm bored with it frankly

 

Good **** Rummy! :deal

 

Spot on giving credit to Les Moonves. Fight doesn't get made without him. Excellent businessman, respected by all parties, and knows how to get a deal finished. Moonves obviously told everybody to keep negotiations out of the media, which they mostly were outside of a few comments here and there.

Airing out dirty laundry to the media, insulting the other party, doesn't help a business deal get signed.

Great work by Moonves. Just great work.

 

:good

 

i'm not going to worry if Golovkin doesn't get a mega-fight anytime soon. who knows what would happen if he got relatively filthy rich. his team might slow down his activity, his wife might beg him to quit. i like things the way they are. 4 scheduled massacres vs the best middleweight who will get in the ring with him per year. Cotto would get blasted out in a few rounds, not much of a fight except for money and prestige.

 

Rumsfeld,

Great video, I agree Golovkin should stay at 160 to unify the titles, however at some point the Ward fight has to happen.

I don't see this as anything but a 50/50 fight.

Ward has:
1. A few pounds -both guys will be between 175 and 180lb on fight night.
2. A 1.5" height advantage - really not enough to be a big advantage
3. A 1" reach advantage - again, too marginal to make a difference
4. Better head movement - no question this is better than GGG's.
5. Better upper body movement - this is a big deal

Golovkin has:
1. Power - enough power to almost even out Ward's 1,2&3 advantages
2. Chin - Ward is not knocking GGG out, but GGG will have 12rnds to hurt Ward
3. Pressure - this will hamper Wards timing and distance, force him to trade
4. Footwork - Ward will be cutoff and this too will effect his timing/distance
5. Accuracy - combined with high output and power is tough to out score.

So essentially you have a slightly bigger guy with great movement and timing, against a guy with better footwork, power, accuracy and output. Both are kings of their division, with excellent Pro and Amateur backgrounds.

Styles

Both present a major challenge to each other. Ward won't like that GGG has elite footwork that will disrupt his rhythm and put GGG in position to land hard shots, and he won't like trading so many shots with a guy that is this aggressive and accurate. Ward's style is to play with fire - you can't do this with a concussion because the precision is lost.

Golovkin won't like the bigger man clinching, he will have trouble finding his shots on Ward and he will not like Ward hitting him on the way in. He will have trouble overcoming the sore cards if he can't put Ward on the ropes and land some grimacing shots.

At the end of the day, no one can make a strong argument that Golovkin will find Ward, or that Ward will go 12 without getting a concussion. Pickem' fight if there ever was one.

Oh and I stopped listening when you brought up two guys I had never heard of, well, I might of heard about that pacweather guy, but not the mayquiao dude.

 

I don't find it the least bit disrespectful to Golovkin to suggest that Ward is a bad look for him stylistically.

 

When you turn it around, GGG is a might troublesome to Ward also. If Abraham and Bika showed a little game, GGG might find 6 rounds for himself.