Evaluating the Gennady Golovkin Situation & Initial Thoughts on Floyd vs Pacquiao

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  1. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Why do you assume Golovkin can throw bombs at super middle? He'll have OK power at 168 I'm sure, but it will be nothing like it is at 160.
     
  2. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Hain't cha heard what sparring partners have been saying about GG's power? Even Krusher Kovalev said the guy hits like a sledgehammer
     
  3. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    'Ola Afolabi said to Sky Ringside “I think it’s going to be a knockout. The guy [Golovkin] hits incredibly hard. I’ve been in the ring with heavyweights, cruiserweights, light heavyweights, and I get in the ring with this kid and every time he hits me, I say whoa''

    Ryan Coyne (former CW now LHW)

    ''He’s a f__king beast,” said Coyne, a 20-0 cruiserweight prospect who has recently dropped down to light heavyweight. “He’s been running guys out of here. Nobody under 175 pounds will spar with him.''

    “I’ve sparred with heavyweights who can punch, including Mariusz Wach and Mike Perez, nobody has hit me as hard as Golovkin. His power is out of this world.”

    ''I spent my summer up in Big Bear training with Gennady Golovkin who is emerging as the most murderous puncher in the boxing. I watched former champions, light heavies, cruisers, and even heavies get sent home.''

    David Imoesiri HW

    “The dude can hit, I’m still getting used to it,” said Imoesiri, who like Coyne, is delightfully bright and articulate. “It’s crazy. I sparred with [undefeated WBA heavyweight beltholder] Alexander Povetkin and he never hurt me like this guy.''

    “I must have done 50 rounds while in camp with Povetkin and it was three and half weeks before he hit me with something that made me hold on. With Golovkin I was ready to get out of the ring 45 seconds into our first round of sparring. He hit me with two lefts to the body in the identical spot and had me doubled over. I got through it but it’s hard to defend against 6-inch punches with that much pop. He backs me into a corner with just a jab.

    “And it seems like he does it effortlessly.”

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    "The guy hits like a hammer.

    "I have never felt that type of power anywhere, not in sparring or anywhere."

    --Grzegorz Proksa

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    ''Golovkin has freakishly unreal power''

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    ''Golovkin hits like a LHW. And that's coming from someone who can take a punch''

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    ''He be punching as hard as Johnathon Banks be punching''

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    ''I've sparred heavyweights, cruiserweights. These punches nothing to me. I spar Golovkin and every punch I feel''

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    “The rumors are true, Gennady Golovkin is an animal. I’ve never been hit as hard from anybody else and I’ve sparred heavyweights”

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    "He's the strongest dude I ever sparred. And I been in there with heavyweights, cruiserweights."

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  4. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    You make a mighty compelling case, Serge. And I applaud your efforts into making that case! :cheers

    Definitely food for thought.

    Let me ask you this question a little differently, however. GGG has been stopping most of his recent opponents early (notwithstanding Murray, who was the first ever to take GGG into the championship rounds). His 10 opponents immediately prior to Murray were all stopped in 8 or less.

    My question for you is do you think that trend is likely to continue after a move north? Or do you think if the best available/willing super middles start facing GGG rather than the best available/willing middles that there would be a noticeable trend towards later stoppages and guys taking GGG into the championship rounds, and even to the final bell?
     
  5. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Thanks. :good


    Firstly, I can see why many feel Ward wins this. However, like I said, I think with a fair ref who won't allow him to stifle Golovkin's offence with all that holding and fouling he does the fight takes on a completely different complexion. Ward obviously has great boxing ability but can he keep Golovkin off of him if he forced to rely solely on that and not allowed to hold excessively and foul all night? Maybe maybe not. One thing I do know is that unless he puts on his track shoes and runs for his life from first bell to last he's going to get hit with far more regularity than he would do if the referee permits him to lunge in and grab a hold and tie Golovkin everytime he's trying to get his shots off and obviously that's going to leave him much more vulnerable to getting knocked out.

    To answer your question. I guess we'll only know the answer to that for sure after he's tested the waters against the best 168 has to offer. That said, Rubio was 181 by the time he climbed into the ring against him and he was swept aside effortlessly. And although Murray has got to be coming in the same weight on fight night as a lot of SMWs are, I think his style in addition to his size and toughness was also a factor in him being able extend Golovkin into the late rounds. The opinions of all those fighters raving about Golovkin's power has got to count for something though, especially considering how many of them are saying the same thing. :good