Evander Holyfield and his place in history

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  1. spud1

    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    With a skill set a resume and a heart to match where would you rank the real deal?
     
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  2. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In terms of heavyweights in the latter part of the top 10. In terms of p4p probably top 25-35 range. He had an amazing career, but he should have retired about 12-15 years ago.
     
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  3. spud1

    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    He should have retired many years ago I agree especially with his heart condition but he still has that stubbornness in him that allowed him to reach the heights when he was able to, same situation with rj. His resume is off the charts, 2 fighters who many have in their top 5 heavyweights, holmes and foreman. Beating Bowe beating Tyson and a few others who would have bee ranked in top 20. He is a modern day Archie Moore.
     
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  4. Big George

    Big George Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Evanders place in history is as the the biggest and most obvious steroid user in all of sports. And for whatever reason he got a pass.
     
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  5. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    stfu *****
     
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  6. JoeAverage

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    Best CW ever.

    About no. 20 among HW's.

    In comparison I would rank Tyson no. 6 (yes, higher than Evander despite the losses... Evander was exceptional against people his own size.. but did not handle bigger men as well as Tyson did).

    Bowe I rank about 50-60 at HW (Golota something like 70-90).

    Lennox I rank inside top 5 at HW.
     
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  7. spud1

    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    Bit ***** to put Tyson at 6 and Evander at 20. There is not that much of a gap between them.

    Tyson definitely does not deserve a 6 ranking either, Holyfield dealt without fighters bigger than him, I'm curious to know which ones you think he did. It do well against.
     
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  8. Ilesey

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    You are a ****.
     
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  9. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You have some ****ed up HW ratings sir. However it's your choice I guess. What's your top 10 like?

    I have him 8/9 ish Heavyweight wise but p4p around 20 or so
     
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  10. Ilesey

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    ??????????????
     
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  11. Vano-Irons

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    I'd struggle to name 10 greater HWs than Holyfield, who HAS to be ranked higher than Tyson IMO.

    Bowe as low as 50 is beyond ludicus IMO.

    I'd love to see your list
     
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  12. rayrobinson

    rayrobinson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Possibly the most positive attitude of any boxer in history.

    His ring walk vs Tyson I is just magic.
     
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  13. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    HoF fighter. ATG CW. But not a top-10 HW.
     
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  14. KINGOFTHE1ROUND

    KINGOFTHE1ROUND Guest

    and anyway people on this board respect Vitali more and he was actually a PROVEN cheater.
    But,it take more than a syringe to become a world champ.
     
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  15. KINGOFTHE1ROUND

    KINGOFTHE1ROUND Guest

    He never failed one test. It's all hearsay and rumors. He passed every test and it is possible and common for a bigger crusierweight to gain muscle and move up to heavyweight. Adamek and David Haye did it and they aren't half the fighters that Holyfield is. You are the kind of gullible person that just believes things without proof or in other words,a jealous hateful jackoff.
    Holyfield is the best cruiserwight ever and a top 10 heavyweight so deal with it. Now **** off.
     
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