Evander Holyfield at 199, could have cleaned out most of our top ten.

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  1. Surrix

    Surrix Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Not all. Some are 193 lbs or even 190 lbs in weight ins.
    Usually if guy is 220 lbs or larger in the ring, he does not compete in CW.
    HW is suggested to pay more if you are at top level and therefore too I think.
     
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  2. Finkel

    Finkel Member Full Member

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    Surrix, In the nicest possible way:
    You don't need to be so literal with your reading of English on an internet forum

    But you are correct:
    200 is the cruiserweight limit. Cruiserweights [can] weigh-in below that then rehydrate.
     
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  3. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very physically burn you Full Member

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    Holyfield would do damned well in today's division but he wouldn't clean it out. Usyk would beat him like Byrd did and I think Fury beats him in a similar way to Bowe after going through hell and maybe getting off the canvas. Joshua could be beaten, but if Joshua plays it smart like Lennox and just jabs and ties up Holyfield he could win a decision. Other than that though I think he does great.
     
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  4. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Active Member Full Member

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    Entirely different styles. Usyk is skilled but he's no Holmes.
     
  5. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Active Member Full Member

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    Who has Wilder beaten again ?
     
  6. Surrix

    Surrix Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Prime Usyk was more mobile than this old Holmes version who had beated Holy.
    Prime Holmes was like 1977-1981 fast Holmes and this was yeah.
    Usyk of course isn't undefeatable, at all he had bronze medal in one world amateur championship, later improved: had gold medal.
    No one had advertised Usyk as unbeatable god.
    Ppl still try to undervalue PRIME Usyk and use as ground Usyk's 3 last fights.
     
  7. Surrix

    Surrix Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah but usullay not much.
    Usyk almost 2 years does not need to maintain weight class and do any special diet in order to keep weight. Of course he also does not need to dehydrate or rehydrate anything. Outcome is: Usyk is 217 lbs vs Chisora.
    Haye at HW was 217 - 219 lbs.
    Povetkin was 224-225-228 lbs and he competed in HW division.
    Lerena told that he is 220 lber and moved to bridgerweight.
    Huck in his prime was approx 209 lbs at HW.

    CW boxers aren't that larger than 200 lbs. Cos if they move to HW they does not need worry about weight in weight and looks that HW purses are better than CW purses unless you aren't famous etc.
     
  8. mark ant

    mark ant Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ortiz.
     
  9. Surrix

    Surrix Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Old and slow 40 y.o dude.
    Usyk too had beated him and prime Holy too.

    Wilder maybe is really better than we think but his resume is suspicious.
     
  10. northpaw

    northpaw Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    First of all, why is this hypothetical limiting him to only being 199lbs? Even as a neophyte HW he was 207-210 no? I do agree he'd have cleaned out much of the top 10, he'd have a hard time with Fury and Joshua stylistically though. He always had a hard time with the biggest guys.
     
  11. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Full Member

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    Let's take Joshua off the roids if that's the direction were going here. Hes been the new poster boy for roids since day 1
     
  12. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Active Member Full Member

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    1 decent win but thats it. He also looked like trash against Ortiz
     
  13. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    There's a possibility that Evander Holyfield actually never fought.
     
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  14. Heisenberg

    Heisenberg @excelsioroptimum Full Member

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    The majority juice. It’s very naive to think it’s only the small minority that get caught.
     
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  15. Gatekeeper

    Gatekeeper Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Beat me to it. Fury has been previously busted and anyone who thinks AJ is clean doesn't have a clue.