evander holyfield - career steroid abusing cheat

Nope. I would say that if Froch took PEDs then almost everything he achieved was a farce and he should be banned from boxing and striped of his titles.

FFS - this is what happens in almost any other sport - why is Wach & Peterson fighting months after testing positive for doping???

 

I don't know the link upon which this story is based upon, I've never seen it online at any credible site. Wikipedia doesn't give it much credence. Even so, I always go with the innocent until proven guilty ideal.

We all know what happens in our sport. Two of the best nutritionists out there are convicted PED peddlers. That's a fact. Numerous fighters have failed tests in the last two years or so, since the problem has been highlighted publicly.

The chances are we have only hit the tip of the iceberg on the issue. When I watch Holyfield now, I see an extremely strong heavy, a guy who could eat punches like malteasers, with shoulder muscles like none other. When I see JM Marquez these days, I see a guy who has become ridiculously hench despite entering the lasts stages of his 30's. But until proven guilty of using performance enhancers, they are innocent.

 

Probably. Two different situations, but very similar in a lot of ways.

• Both "Evan Fields" and "Ripped Fuel" were stumbled upon outside of regular testing (Jones only came to light when Hall mentioned it in a nothing interview)
  
• Both leave questions unanswered and never reached a satisfactory conclusion.
  
• Neither case was pursued as vigorously as you would expect considering the profile of the fighters involved.
  
• Both were at a stage in their careers where there was no obvious incentive to "start" a program (ie not a major fight)
  
• There were no obvious differences in appearance or performance around the time (unlike say Spinks prior to Holmes or Marquez -Pac IV - not suggesting either man was doping btw)
  
• The defences from both men are less than plausible
  
• Myths have grown around both cases without an obvious primary source, and what journalists have reported becomes accepted as "fact"
  
• Fans on the whole don't seem to give a ****

Moving away from pointing fingers at Holyfield (or Jones), but are his defenders satisfied that Holyfield's links to Applied Pharmacy were thoroughly investigated and dismissed? Was Holyfield completely open, consistent and transparent in his statements on the matter? Why isn't Holyfield done more to clear his name from the suspicion that has hung over him for over 20 years?

 

:deal

 

Holyfield never took a steroid in his life.

Some "unnamed source" rang a phone number for evan fierlds and "said" Holyfield answered , using his voice detection powers -

THIS IS THE PROOF

a mystery man heard a voice on a phone

FFS

 

the only PED cancer in boxing is Vicotr Conte

ban him

 

Thats what I would like to know how does he know it was Holyfield that picked up that phone?

yet we are supposed to believe the story.......

Evander has never tested positive, has never done anything to disrespect this sport even when he could and probably should have the man always showed true class and this is how fans want to treat him...:verysad

 

Im pretty sure hes admitted in interviews that it was him the answered, but the drugs were for his fathers heart condition. A quick google search will get them up.

 

if thats true man, says allot about the ****ed up people who accuse him of this ****....

 

Yes, that was his original explanation.

In 2007 he stated that he may have unknowingly taken drugs from the pharmacy to help with a hormonal problem he was having.

It may well be a case that he had completely forgot that he may have taken (apparently performance enhancing) drugs purchased from the same pharmacy that he was obtaining drugs to help his father's heart condition. He may well have neglected to mention it at the time, on the basis that him taking "hormonal supplements" from a pharmacy under investigation for supplying athletes with PEDs was you know, not really that relevant in the circumstances. It may well be the case that Holyfield has been the innocent victim of a bizarre serious of circumstantial events that have tainted his reputation.

Yup, that is one possible explanation :think

(This is all ignoring the Signature Pharmacy issue which Holyfield has been linked to, although to be fair nothing has really come to the surface with that one)

 

But Pac never took a damn thing and yet was able to maintain , speed , work rate and new power when moving up in weight..
Yet everyone wants to believe his new found wealth allowed him to eat properly thus improving his physical abilities.

 

Heart problems due to steroid abuse and lots of cardio. He was a bodybuilder. Doesn't take a genius to know he was on PED.

 

There has been pictures posted of Marquez before and after Heredia.

The stereotype if that Marquez was'nt lean and ripped before Heredia, but if you look at his weighin's before Heredia joined the camp, he's ripped and looking fit and muscular in those.

Marquez bulked up and was strong as an ox for the Mayweather fight.
But he did it lifting rocks and it slowed him down.
Marquez did'nt go about it for Mayweather hiring a professional conditioning coach. The bulk was there, but in the wrong places.

In fact Marquez weighed more in the ring for Mayweather than he did for his last fight with Pacquiao where he scored an emphatic KO!

Whether Marquez is being provided illegal PED's by Heredia none of us really know, but dont come in here and tell me his body has been completely transformed when it has'nt. He's doing other strenghth building exercises he had'nt done before Heredia, so of course there's going to be some changes to his body that go with that, just dont come in here and say his body has been completely transformed when Marquez has always looked ripped and beasty in alot of other weighins before Heredia!


I'll say this about Holyfield. He has mantained a consistent weight for many years. Not at all looking skinny or fat when he has'nt been in training.