Evander Holyfield - H2H

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  1. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    How high does the board in general rank Evander in a pure H2H sense?
     
    Russell, Jan 16, 2008
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  2. Sonny's jab

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    I'd probably rank him in the top 20 heavyweights of all-time.
     
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  3. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Not as high as he does in the sense of achievements/accomplishments. Probably just outside the top ten.
     
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  4. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Top 15. I think Holyfield is a tough out for anyone, but I see him losing more often than not vs history's best.
     
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  5. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    About where i rank him all things considered, lower end of the top10.
     
    ChrisPontius, Jan 16, 2008
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  6. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    In a H2H sense, I think Holyfield does very well...A prime Holyfield IMO loses to prime versions of Ali,Louis, and Holmes...50/50 against FOTC Frazier...I'd slightly favor Holyfield over Liston and Foreman...
     
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  7. JohnThomas1

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    Top 10, bottom half. Holyfield is decently matched style wise to be competitive with the likes of Frazier, Foreman, Dempsey, Liston and others. Comfortably top 10 for me.
     
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  8. Sonny's jab

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    I think Jimmy Ellis might beat him.
     
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  9. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You're entitled to your opinion...and I like Jimmy Ellis as a fighter but not against Holyfield...
    Holyfield competed with fighters that Ellis couldn't begin to cope with... namely Tyson, Bowe, and Lewis...I don't see your point at all... :huh
    How about Jimmy Ellis against Bob Foster?
     
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  10. Hitman

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    I rate him in the top 10
     
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  11. Sonny's jab

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    What Holyfield did against Tyson, Bowe, Lewis isn't relevant when assessing how he matches up head-to-head against Jimmy Ellis, unless you think any of them resemble Ellis.

    I think Holyfield was more ordinary when up against guys who were defensive, he thrived on his aggressive counter-attacking. Guys who backed off and slowed the tempo would give Holyfield problems, IMO. And Holyfield has said as much in interviews.
    Styles make fights.
     
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  12. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    In a peak for peak sense he's in the top 10.

    He's a handful for anyone, no-one is blowing him out, no-one - so that introduces a lot of variance over a long fight. With a fighter as smart as Hollyfield is, that gives him a very fine chance to beat almost anyone.
     
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  13. UpWithEvil

    UpWithEvil Active Member Full Member

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    You misspelled "HGH".
     
    UpWithEvil, Jan 17, 2008
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  14. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sonny's jab, That is true re defensive fighters against Holyfield...IMO, I just can't see Ellis having either the defensive capability, or the physical strength to effectively hold Holyfield off.
     
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  15. mofo2

    mofo2 Active Member Full Member

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    Evander was a great fighter,that had terrific heart but it would be difficult to put him in the top 10-15 of all time.......
     
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