Evander Holyfield: I'd tear Joe Louis Up

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  1. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Would you shut up. Stop bumping Joe Louis threads. It's like your 16th one this week
     
  2. moneytheman12

    moneytheman12 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    didnt I tell you no yesterday show me the page where it says I cant talk on a topic thats limited to a time limit or number of post that can be made to it
     
  3. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's always sumthin about Joe Louis with you.

    :risas3:

    Money... just stop. Delete your account
     
  4. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    On a serious note do you prefer bumping old threads or creating new ones for the same subject? Seems most people just create a new thread for the same discussion. Kind of like seeing how people’s opinions change over the years. Question posed has nothing to do with accused poster who is clearly slightly insane lol
     
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  5. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    I'm not a moderator, so I have no idea how easy (or difficult) this would be: have only 1 thread for a major hot topic. For instance, Tyson vs Ali, whose the best of the fab 4 (Leonard, Hagler, etc). Merge all the threads of the same subject into one so we don't get annoying bumps or repeats of threads that have been done a million times before (both are equally annoying).

    One simple solution would be to have a feature that catches thread titles that have been done more than 20x and preventing you from posting the thread with a notification letting you know it's been done too many times. It could either redirect you to the most recent thread, or maybe it automatically converts your new thread into a reply to a mega merged thread of the same topic.
     
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  6. moneytheman12

    moneytheman12 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I asked you a question where is the page that tells me it's a limit on post I can topic I can talk on anybody I want to just like you can doesnt matter how many times it is what is the reason to talk to me for

    I dont talk to you you talk to me like entaowed who I said he doesnt have to talk to me but he still tries

    why dont you delete your account I dont talk to certain people you dont have to talk to me you do know that dont you
     
  7. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Caveman language
     
  8. moneytheman12

    moneytheman12 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Caveman language
     
  9. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    So that would mean Louis's chin was better. Can't have it both ways
     
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  10. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    The difference between Holyfield and Lewis and others like Tyson and Foreman. One group has problems with their notoriety while the other group is humble as humble pie. Go ahead, guess which groups are which...
     
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  11. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Good question.

    I’ve wondered same. Notably when you use google to search anything boxing, if there is a current or old discussion on this site relating to the enquiry it will often come up.

    That’s how I found and why I bumped a slightly older thread recently that only had about 6-7 posts. I was adding new info and the thread wasn’t one of those that had denigrated into a slanging match and repetition. I suppose it just comes down to as and when common sense as to whether it’s better to pull up an old thread (which may already contain important and relevant info) or just create a new thread.
     
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  12. moneytheman12

    moneytheman12 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    no thats not what it means your flipping legend etm to make it seem like punches he took from people with less padding means he was tough well there comes then flaw

    sense the people he fought didnt know how to punch with good tech and didnt punch good from other angles like 70s-90s means their punches wasnt that effective

    we can see joe hurt by people the years I gave never would hurt mid/big name people he wasnt that tough
     
  13. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Money, money, money, what are you taking about?

    ETM’s logic is perfect, elegant and fail safe. Even Albert E. would be proud and I wish I’d written it.

    You’re defying 1 + 1 = 2. As per your own reasoning, less padding = harder punch, so everyone with less padding hits harder. You can’t extricate yourself from that.

    You just don’t like the obvious and ONLY conclusion that it lends to = Joe being tougher than what you’ve accounted for by way of your unevenly applied standards.

    You’ve tried to reason less padding to Joe’s discredit, BUT, if that same belief re padding lends credit to Joe, you irrationally reject it. The transparency of your disingenuous M.O is clear.

    Do you know or even care about the difference in glove size from Foreman v Lyle to Foreman v Morrison? Confirmation bias = only “seeing” that which you think aligns with your agenda or predisposed beliefs.

    That’s without even going into the more technical pros and cons of older, lighter gloves vs the design of heavier, mod. gloves, including the distribution of the heavier padding in the latter.

    A simple question here. As you’ve stated, you don’t like lies, you only speak the truth.

    Re Tyson v Douglas. Who did you pick to win and how? If you’re too young, it’s not difficult to imagine who you would’ve picked and for what reasons.

    Just a simple, concise and honest answer thanks, if that’s okay.
     
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  14. moneytheman12

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    I was a baby when that match was had but I seen it in 90s but I did see mike matches on ESPN of the old mike before that and seen he fought different

    so I was going for Mike still even though he felloff

    no less padding does equal harder punches if you seen UFC it's the same thing less padding and you see how those dudes can take way less punches then boxers its almost as if they have no gloves

    etm is a legend for trolling to he is not always wrong I am not always right but mostly I am

    I would have no problem believing joe was tough if he never was dropped by the people who dropped him mostly all those dudes had bad punch tech

    none of those dudes would drop the 70s-90s mid/high card fighters cause of being able to move way better which shows you joe wasnt that tough the way he is made out to be

    I dont only like truth but logic

    I dont care of the glove size of ali era or tom cause those dudes aren't hyped up to be tougher then they were

    well I said George wasnt that tough to hard shots shown by Ron the difference is George was tough in general to regular shots

    joe and his era wasnt tough to taking shots from that era-90s where they punched better and used more angles which can give more effect on punches

    I cant never give you people simple answers cause im not a simple minded person which people want me to be by saying how I so called talk wrong

    I dont talk wrong cause I dont believe it's a right or wrong way to talk I dont believe in bad or good grammer that's only for people who are brainwashed into thinking they have to follow a system I dont so no I dont believe the way I talk is bad or good it's just what it is

    people can believe it's bad but that means nothing to me all i care about is talking to people no matter how they talk

    I wish people would stop being so stuck into one way of thinking of how a person has to talk or having to talk it's so stuck minded here
     
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  15. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    As far as I’ve read him, ETM is not a troll at all.

    Back to the points I highlighted. You haven’t converged on them. There are simple answers to some things, it’s just that there are deliberately convoluted replies that refuse to acknowledge those true and simple answers. Pretty simple to suggest Joe hit harder with less padding, right? Not so simple when that same belief is used in counter to your arguments. Simple enough but you simply don’t like it.

    Back to Tyson v Douglas. I assumed you would go for Mike BUT what I am asking is: what you would’ve predicted for how the fight would go and it’s outcome. That isn’t difficult and only requires a simple answer.