Evander Holyfield is the most underrated fighter of the 90's. The BWAA is a joke!

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  1. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    How can you be "Fighter of the Decade" by choosing the easiest route to a HW title by fighting John Ruiz? Because HBO set up for Roy Jones Jr. to be just that. Even though he was popping for PEDs in 2000 the same year he was awarded the damn thing. Not only that Jones was using PEDs fighting poor competition like David Telesco and Richard Hall.

    How does Hopkins who at the time was a nobody, James Toney who's only good victory was over Micheal Nunn in a fight he almost loss, compare to Evander Holyfield moving up from Cruiserweight to Heavyweight and knocking out then Tyson conqueror James Douglas for all the belts in 1990 and then beating legend George Foreman, Larry Holmes, going to war with Bowe 3x, knocking down Moorer and being robbed in 94, beating Mercer, Czyz and then beating a fresh out of prison, focused, hungry, scary, Mike Tyson 2 times arguably(because Tyson couldn't take the pressure in the second fight), and then going to war with Lennox Lewis to end the decade?

    The fact that Holyfield won Fighter of the Year for 3 years in that decade 1990,1996,and 1997 and was pasted up for Fighter of the Decade because the BWAA was paid off by HBO was heavily invested in Jones Jr. was pure bias and propaganda. This is no shade to the Manny FOTD thread but an example to show you how corrupt that award is from it's genesis.
     
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  2. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    I agree, Pernell Whitaker should of won that title though.

    He clearly was the best boxer in the 90's.
     
  3. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    Nope. Nobody put in more work in the 90s like Holyfield did. Everybody he fought minus Mike was bigger than him, especially Riddick Bowe, and he was never KNOCKEDOUT!!!
     
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  4. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    And Pernell didn't fight boxers bigger than him? I agree that Evander Holyfield had an excellent, ATG run during the 90's, beating the like of Foreman, Moore, Tyson, Bowe and Douglas, but he lost 4 times, even in fights he should of won like the first Moore fight.

    From 1990 to his fight with a prime Trinidad in 1999, Whitaker has had an extraordinary career. He became the first boxer since Duran to unify the LW division, won 4 legitimate titles in 4 different weight classes, and beat a who's who of champions and ATG's like Azuma Nelson, Julio Cesar Chavez, Buddy McGirt, and Julio Cesar Vasquez. After beating p4p top 5 and WW champion Buddy McGirt, Pernell went on to embarrass the p4p best boxer in the world in Chavez, then a year later would outbox long reigning JMW Champion Vasquez, after Vasquez has just took Winky Wright's 0. His only legitimate loss was against Trinidad in 99 during the tail end of his career.
     
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  5. Moanamchara

    Moanamchara Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Its funny when fanboys act like RJJ achieved as much as Bob Fitzsimmons going from MW-HW. When in fact he didn't. RJJ beat John Ruiz not the lineal champ. Imagine if Bob Fitzsimmons who won a disputed version of the HW crown against Peter Maher stopped there. Thankgod he didn't instead he wanted to be recognized as the lineal champion and he knocked out the then lineal champ Corbett to be the undisputed HW champion of the world.
     
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  6. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    I give credit to Roy for starting at 154 and moving up to Heavyweight ,that's and extraordinary feat. The BWAA putting him over guys that had to really fight top notch champions from the beginning of the decade to the end is unfair. Jones is very entertaining but he beat a slew of low tier challengers while Holyfield was fighting wars.
     
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  7. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    the problem is when was the last time a hw was named fighter of the decade ?
     
  8. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    Ali in the 60's?
     
  9. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    Always loved that dude. We saw him about two years ago in town just grabbing a burger
     
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  10. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    You guys said everything I needed to say about Holyfield! Great thread!
     
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  11. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    I think your right. It see not since Ali. It always been for the lower weight guys wasn't Sugar Ray Leaonard a fighter of the decade
     
  12. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    Jones in the 90's, Leonard in the 80s, Duran in the 70s, Ali in the 60s, Robinson in the 50s and 40s, Joe Louis in the 30s and Benny Leonard/Grebb in the 20s. Tyson did have a great claim for fighter of the 80s though. He made boxing completely global during his reign.
     
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    Fighters of the decade


    1910s: Sam Langford -- Small man beat the best big men of his day. Runner up: Jimmy Wilde.
    1920s: Benny Leonard -- Some still say he’s the greatest lightweight ever. Runner up: Harry Greb.
    1930s: Henry Armstrong -- Held titles in three weight classes simultaneously. Runner up: Tony Canzoneri.
    1940s: Ray Robinson – Untouchable as a welterweight. Runner up: Willie Pep
    1950s: Ray Robinson – Also one of the greatest middleweights ever. Runner up: Archie Moore.
    1960s: Muhammad Ali – The Greatest really was the greatest at this time. Runner up: Carlos Ortiz.
    1970s: Roberto Duran – Virtually untouchable as a lightweight. Runner up: Carlos Monzon.
    1980s: Ray Leonard: His victories over Duran, Hearns and Hagler were epic. Runner up: Julio Cesar Chavez.
    1990s: Roy Jones Jr. – At his best, he inspired awe. Runner up: Pernell Whitaker.
    2000s: Manny Pacquiao – Sorry Floyd but you need to fight the best to be the best. Runner up: Floyd Mayweather.
     
  14. Tito Bouche

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    I agree 100% about Holyfield being mad underrated. Yeah Pernell did have a good run in the '90s, as well as Oscar De La Hoya, and Trinidad... But what Evander accomplished in the 90's does outshine their accomplishments as well as RJJ's accomplishments in the 90's.
     
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  15. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    The FOTD was made in the late 90s. It did not exist until then. I promise you guys that HBO created this award for a reason with the BWAA. They skipped 3 of boxing greatest eras just to give it to a man that was never FOTY. Weird Stuff.