Evander Holyfield is the only man in history to become Undisputed in 2 weight classes

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  1. jas

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  2. janitor

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    Lots of people have done it.
     
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  3. jas

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    who are these people you speak of........
     
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  4. I Know Everythi

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    He is probably referring to guys like Henry Armstrong when there was only one belt per weight class

    Im guessing by undisputed you mean guys who held all 3 major belts at once in the WBC/WBA/IBF era
     
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  5. LittleRed

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    It's a weird line in the sand to draw. I mean Ray Leonard was undisputed in 2 classes.
     
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  6. jas

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    the ibf belt wasn't on the line in the hagler-leonard fight i'm afraid
     
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  7. TBooze

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    By definition, no fighter has ever won an undisputed title. But some have won two or more generally recognized world championships...
     
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  8. jas

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    explain further sir. what is the true meaning of undisputed?
     
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  9. TBooze

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    The moment someone challenges an alleged 'undisputed' champion, they are 'disputing' the champion's claim, and thus the champion is no longer 'undisputed'...

    The term 'Generally Recognized World Champion' is a much better term, as it rises above the literal meaning of 'undisputed', it is more flexible than 'lineal' and does not need alphabet crap...
     
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  10. janitor

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    Anybody who held titles in two weight classes when there was only one title per weight class, should qualify.

    If there is only one title and you hold it, it is hard to see who could dispute it.
     
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  11. jas

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    ah ok you are referring to what is nower days called the "Universally Recognised Champion" or extended version "true, legitimate, lineal, universally recognised, undisputed champion of the world"
     
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  12. TBooze

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    No, I am referring to the 'Generally Recognized World Champion'; no other spin is needed!
     
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  13. jas

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    on a side note, why are you using american spelling ? :roll::tong
     
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  14. TBooze

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    If it is not picked up by my Google spell, it will sneak through. My English is as bad as my math!
     
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  15. mr. magoo

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    I think Henry Armstrong was a recognized champion in THREE weight classes at ONE time - something which is no longer permitted in boxing.
     
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