Evander Holyfield vs Deontay Wilder

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by InMemoryofJakeLamotta, Dec 1, 2019 at 3:27 PM.


Who wins and How

  1. Wilder KO

    12.2%
  2. Wilder TKO

    4.9%
  3. Wilder UD

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Wilder SD

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Draw

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. Holyfield KO

    24.4%
  7. Holyfield TKO

    34.1%
  8. Holyfield UD

    19.5%
  9. Holyfield SD

    4.9%
  1. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A very interesting fight to me and a shame it can't ever happen. In my mind Holyfield needs to get close because he is the better fighter there, he has more weapons at that range. He needs to be on Wilder's chest and turning him to bring his hook to work, up and down.
    Trying to box Wilder would be a bad plan,in my eyes. Holyfield wasn't great at not getting hit with jabs; getting hung up on the end of the jab, letting Wilder have room to use his feet to take his time to line up the shot he wants...Wilder likes to take his time. If Holyfield really presses him will he fold, or will he adapt and take his time in a hurry?
     
  2. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You're the first one to make Wilder a favorite. Even if Wilder did hit harder than Tyson, Lewis, Mercer, old Foreman, Cooper I think the question is, how much harder? Would it be hard enough to do what they couldn't....stop Holyfield?
     
  3. mcvey

    mcvey Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pretty hard to pick against Evander here.
     
  4. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Good insight.
     
  5. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Do it! Pick against Evander!!!
     
  6. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker Full Member

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    Look , Wilder is an exceptional puncher , a warrior and means business but he is not a great fighter and I feel he would have lost to Tyson, Bowe, Lewis or Holyfield .. I feel the same about Fury who is a poor man's super heavyweight Slapsy Maxie despite being likable and Joshua who cannot absorb punishment .. all three have big hearts , all three are likable , I'm happy for all three to have found success, fame and fortune bit all three are a big level below the other guys ..
     
  7. Flash24

    Flash24 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No Wilder.
     
  8. Flash24

    Flash24 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Almost actually is a miss match, Wilder only has one punch a hard right hand ( And that could be debated if one looks at his competition seriously) He doesn't know how to jab, has no left hook, his defense is throwing up his arms around his face, hoping it blocks his opponents punches or leaning away. He doesn't counter (Does he know how?) waits for his opponents to stop punching before he returns fire.... He drops his jab when he decides to uses it, ( because he has to think about it opposed to being instinctive)and his chin is always above his left shoulder ( A prime example of his amateurish skills) Holyfield and any well schooled professional heavyweight in their prime or close to it would have a field day on Wilder.
     
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  9. sauhund II

    sauhund II Well-Known Member Full Member

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    LOL @all the Wilder haters.....

    Holyfield simply "mows" him down...............the irony......he could not mow down Alex S in 2 tries.......could not mow down a glass chinned Light heavy who in his very first defense of the belt got waxed by ONE shot by a Grandpa who got outboxed by Tommy Chin......could not mowe down ancient fossils in Holmes and Foreman...........could never mowe down Bowe or Lewis in 5 tries........hello Vaughn Bean, yep, did not get mowed down either..........that leaves us to his two wins against a washed up Mike Tyson who spent 4 years in the can and was a shell of himself.....and still did not mow him down.

    Holyfileds entire rep is made out of beaten the Shell of Tyson twice.......he struggled with EVERY fighter worth a lick even in winning, he never ever had a easy fight .....I guess PED's only take you that far.

    Holyfield has a poor records fighting tall Heavies who can jab and punch......

    This "bum" Wilder who according the forum experts who dont even know how to wrap hands gets beat by ANYONE despite 40 plus have tried and 40 plus have been stopped......only two went the distance while getting knocked down.

    Wilder has a under rated jab when he elects to use it, has poor footwork but amazing hand and foot speed including top notch hand eye coordination plus fights tall, has a killer instinct and comes with 1000000% confidence.

    Holyfield never was and never will be a defensive wizzard, he got lit up regulary........you aint taking shots from Wilder too long.

    I take Wilder here because Holyfield, similar when fighting Lewis , will not be able to close the distance and he is not taking any chances with Wilders power......if he slugs it out like in the Bowe fights he gets stopped, guranteed.

    Similar to mayweather, Wilder looses every fight past or present.......the ones who are picked to beat them turn into bums automatically once they are dis patched and on to the next boogey man , it never ends........what stays constant is that both kept/keep on winning. Fact.
     
  10. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You're very hard on Evander.
     
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  11. sauhund II

    sauhund II Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Nothing but the facts.....he is 2-5 against Bowe/Moorer/Lewis......everything is based on his victories over a washed up tyson, who is a bum according to the forum experts but is a brutal unbeatable killer when Holyfiled beat him.

    You cannot have it both ways...........without Tyson Holyfiled lost more than he won on the upper level and struggled against ham and eggers.

    And I am not even going into the absurd PED abuse......Lee Haney in cam p strength couch..enough said.
     
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  12. Jamzy ⭐

    Jamzy ⭐ Active Member booted Full Member

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    I would mow you down.
     
  13. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He sure never struggled with Buster Douglas who had just left an undefeated Tyson prone ;)

    The Tyson fights on reflection were both quite comfortable as well. He was far from a shell even if no longer at his best.
     
  14. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wilder does not know how to box and lost about every round against Ortiz.He lacks fundamentals. he will be useless once Holy gets into close range.I do not think having only one punch would beat fighters of the caliber of Holyfield.
     
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  15. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft The Cincinnati Cobra Full Member

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    Lmao facts
     
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