evander holyfield vs. ezzard charles at 190 lbs.

I like Charles, much more fluid and big edge in the skill department,Evender matches him in the heart department and both were about equal in the power area,chin,recup

 

Charles. Watch any fight with Evander, and he fights a smaller person moving away from him. Hell, watch him in fights where larger people move away from him. He never looks good when he is the aggressor, by that I mean coming forward. Holmes, Moorer, Bean, Czyz, Ruiz, Toney, Byrd, Donald, all made him look bad. Some of those are past his peak, but the style problem still shows. He needs someone to come at him, or stand their ground.

Charles is smalle, and if he moved away from Evander, he could take him.

 

I think Charles would win a decision, Holyfield had a lot of holes in his defence and a good jab caused him promblems look at the Lewis and Moorer fights. Plus if Ezzard fought smart he wouldn't go to war with Evander which is Holyfield only chance I actually think Holyfield has a better chance against the likes of Dempsey and Marciano then Charles.

 

I'd also go for Charles. He'd be ice to Evander's fire.

 

Evander wins this one over 15 rounds. Incredible will to win that I think Ezzard did not have .

 

Charles had as big a will to win as any fighter ever.

 

Disagree entirely. Historically his will and passion were questioned even when champ. That is why his effort vs Rocky 1 was so surprising.

 

I think Charles trying to get up after getting blasted by Jersey Joe in the third fight proves he had a great will to win.

 

WTF

 

Ezzard Charles fought tooth and nail with the some of best fighters in history. But his fighting pride and heart goes unnoticed, despite wearing it on his sleeve.

By my count, Charles was dropped 33 times in his long career.

He got up for all but 4, one of which was one of the greatest one punch KOs ever. One was against a beast like Rocky Marciano while past his best and the other 2 were whilst he had ALS, and in all of those bouts he tried to get up in time.

An example of his heart is in the first Bivins fight. He exchanged viciously with Jimmy for the entire fight, and in the process was dropped 4 times. After each of these KDs, he got back up and fought back at a higher pace than before and subsequently scored two KDs of his own.

Another example is the first Lloyd Marshall fight, where he was dropped 8 times. In this fight he was reported to have a hip injury, he got up every time before a count of 3, except for a count of 9 in the 7th, and fought on before the referee stopped the fight after the 8th KD.

He took multiple rematches against both men, and holds KO victories over both.

A greay example of Ezz's fighting heart is his rubber match with Archie Moore. Archie Moore landed a huge left hook on Charles and Charles staggered, Moore immediately jumped on him and grabbed his opportunity with both hands, everyone watching thought Charles was on the verge of getting KOed, yet to everybody's shock, he suddenly snapped into a flurry of left hooks and then landed a devastating cross which put Moore down. Charles, then seized the moment and landed the finisher, another straight right. Moore went down, trying to pull himself up off the ropes, it'd take him 20 seconds.

In his fight with Fitzpatrick, Charles brawled with him and paid a price, he was clipped with a hard right hand to the temple and got up at 7, he then went back to brawling with him and systematically demolished him, scoring 2 more KDs before stopping him 3 rounds later.

Look at the JJW KO7. Charles was gone, looked like he'd been shot. Yet he still attempted to get up.

Yet another case for his great heart is the 2 Marciano fights. I mean, look at em. He's fighting Marciano and as it progresses gets the **** beaten outta him, keeps on going till the final bell. The rematch with Marciano, he gets dropped in the second, and gets right back up and starts fighting back for the whole thing.

Even niesh cases, like the Satterfield fight; takes a big punch in the first round, looks wobbled, comes back with a highlight reel KO in the next round. Or the 2nd Maxim fight, where he was losing clearly for 5 rounds, then flurrying non stop hunting for a KO, almost getting it, hurting Maxim and cutting him before taking a decision.Or the Bivins rematch where he was dropped, but bravely fought back to win a clear decision and hurt Bivins with his own counter punching. The Overlin & Bengal fights are examples of KDs from a green Charles and him immediately getting back up and fighting back. The murderous punching Oakland Billy Smith dropped Charles as well, yet Charles got up and thrashed him. And he set things right the following year in a rematch.

Considering whilst he was diseased and shot to ****, he got up 11 times. You're starting to get my point.

 

What I am starting to get by your post is that Ezzard was hurt all the time! Wow. He's lucky to have been champ for 2 years.

 

If he was hurt all the time, it's a wonder he ever went the distance with Moore, Bivins, Ray, Smith, Walcott and Marciano. Just admit you were wrong about Ezzard Charles not having a heart as big as Holyfield's.

 

You know what happens when ice meets fire right?

 

It melts and becomes water, which puts out the fire.