Evander Holyfield -vs- Ezzard Charles:

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Holmes' Jab, Oct 12, 2007.


  1. Bonecrusher

    Bonecrusher Lineal Champion Full Member

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    I love watching Satterfield even when he loses, Nice KO punch from Layne had not seen this one in a while thanks SuzieQ49!!
     
  2. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    people only woke up to holyfeild the heavyweight when he beat tyson. charles beat so many tough heavyweights and was much more efficient. holyfeild ran out of ideas against albeit cagey stagers like holmes and toney where as charles mastered moore bvins and maxims sly tricks, yes they were lightheavys but CHARLES knocked out baksi and elmer ray who apart from a majoraty loss to walcott and a previously split and unpopular win over charles was on a 50 odd KO win streak. charles's filmed knockouts of satterfeild, coley walace, layne were more conclusive than holyfeild against cooper, moorer and douglas who are posibly a simular level taking into acount the quality around during charles;s heavyweight era.
    another thing whats all this crap about evander being bigger, stronger and taller than charles? without the weight programes and "protien shakes" their natural size differential is neglegable. evander had those weird moments where he just ran out of gass so the "protien shake" and weights was a double edged sord for him anyway..it canceled itself out. toney, cyz and moorer were light heavys or smaller originaly. bowe was overweight when he beat him, tyson past it, foreman and holmes even more past it.

    charles lost to beter champions. pair the champs both charles and holyfeild lost to. moorer v walcott? ruiz v marciano? hmmm..
     
  3. Hookie

    Hookie Affeldt... Referee, Judge, and Timekeeper Full Member

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    Holyfiled won Bronze as a LHW/178 Lber in the '84 Olympics. He turned pro as a LHW but was always at least a Lb over the LHW/175 Lb limit.

    Pro Debut- 177 1/2
    2nd Fight- 178 1/2
    3rd Fight- 177 1/4
    4th Fight- 176

    5th Fight- 180... he was never under 182 1/2 after this

    I never really considered him a LHW once he turned pro, CW IMO.
     
  4. Unforgiven

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    This is not a good post at all ^
     
  5. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    charles was as real a heavyweight as holyfeild from 1948-54. they are a good match. IMO charles has the edge since he knocked out beter heavyweights than given credit for. evander was exciting, game and excelent value but charles had more class.
     
  6. he grant

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    How about Tyson or prime bowe or Lewis against Marciano or Walcott?
     
  7. choklab

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    they are harder fights for walcott and marciano but ruiz and moorer would be fair tests for Lewis and Bowe. why should bowe and lewis beat marciano and walcott?
     
  8. Hank

    Hank Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Charles was better, he'd give Holyfield beating, but not ko him.
     
  9. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    :good