Evander Holyfield Vs Iron Mike

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  1. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Evander Holyfield did not fight prime Mike Tyson.How many fighters lay off close to 4 years and their skills are the same? Ali. Nope...Ray Leonard Nope. Ray just didn't take on young fighters who would have exposed that long layoff and the conditioning issue Ray had in the Hagler fight. A younger fighter and now Ray can't pace himself because they would have jumped all over him. His speed is exactly the same in the Terry Norris fight and look what happen. Can't pace himself against a young fighter who can fight every second of the round. You can't layoff multiple years in boxing.

    Even before the Evander fight you could see Tyson was not the same. To me he looked slow in Bruce Selson and Frank Bruno fights in 1996. A lot of ppl always talk about his power, but what made Mike so special was his speed. 1986-1988 Tyson had speed like a 160 pounder with the ability to punch in combination, counterpunch with speed, and his defensive reflexes were at the top of it's game because he was hungry and training on a regular basis.

    Another thing is stamina was not a issue for 1986-1988 Tyson. He could actually fight at a fast pace and sustain in for 10 to 12 rounds unlike POST PRISON. No fighter can lay off 4 years and be the same.

    Had Evander fought 80s Tyson this would be the difference. Mike would be harder to hit...Mike would have the ability to counterpunch off Evanders mistakes because Tyson was SHARP....Mike could punch in combination with speed....Mike did not tire as fast.....Back then you couldnt say well let Mike wear himself out after 4 rounds then go to work on him....Thats the Tyson after prison
     
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  2. heavy_handss

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    You need a life. Urgently, the 90% OF the threads are started for you infantile nerd
     
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  3. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    i need a life. :lol: says the 30 year old man arguing with an 82 year old man.
     
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  4. DarthYoda

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    No way does Holyfield beat 87,88 Tyson, NO F ING WAY
     
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  5. Bokaj

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    You're forgetting Holy wasn't the same either. Before the fight the general consensus was that Holy was the one furthest from his prime.
     
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  6. Saintpat

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    Dream on OP
     
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  7. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    at least holy is still fighting.
     
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  8. Foxy 01

    Foxy 01 Boxing Junkie banned

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    Holyfield ALWAYS beats Tyson, for the very same reason he did beat him. No fear, and no respect for his so called " reputation "

    As someone already stated Holy was a big UNDERDOG going into that fight. In fact with its usual taste for sensationalism, certain sections of the media were even claiming Tyson might actually kill him in the ring.
     
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  9. SILVER SKULL 66

    SILVER SKULL 66 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Holyfield wanted to and signed to fight Tyson in Nov 91- But Tyson chickened out and faked. a rib injury, notice how Tyson had a habit of pulling out of a lot of fights during his career:deal

    Holyfield whipped Tysons ass 2x when Holyfield was more vulnerable, due to being 4 years older, had a lot more ringwear, and even had Heart problems, he just had something Tyson never had, a set of brass Nuts..
     
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  10. Vince Voltage

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    What was surprising is that Holyfield appeared to be physically stronger than Tyson, in both fights. I think there's a great chance he beats any Tyson, not that he's ultimately the better fighter, but because he just happened to have the right combination of stuff. Most importantly, he was not afraid of Tyson.
     
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  11. mr. magoo

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    That's only looking at one half of the equation. The man in the other corner across from Tyson was 34 years of age, had actually appeared LESS in the year leading up to the big fight, had looked terrible in his last few outings and was having on and off health issues. If you want to turn the clock back to 1989 for Tyson then at least be willing to extend the same courtesy for the other guy.
     
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  12. Azzer85

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    Evan Fields
     
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  13. Azzer85

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    How the hell did Tyson chicken out?

    the press conference is available on youtube. The fight was all set and done. Idiot

    Which fights did Tyson pull out from?
     
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  14. SILVER SKULL 66

    SILVER SKULL 66 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Read my post he faked a rib injury dumbass, if you can even read??

    He postponed and pulled out of a lot of his fights because he was always drunk high or being his usual stupid self, read his book fanboy, quit asking me to do your homework for you tool...
     
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  15. Azzer85

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    Your stupid moronic post said he chickened out, which is what i asked you about.

    Im asking YOU to tell me which fights he postponed or pulled out of?

    Either name me some, or stop talking **** (as hard as it is for you)
     
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