Evander Holyfield vs Joe Frazier

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    You must vote as your head/heart dictates.
     
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  2. Gudetama

    Gudetama Active Member Full Member

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    I'll go with the OP. joe, brutal and close.
     
  3. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Has anyone mentioned the success a crappy facsimile of Joe Frazier had against Holy?
     
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  4. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    its s tough one to forget.
    From Holyfield's perspective which version would be better suited to cope with Joe Frazier? The slightly past it Evander who was bigger, stronger and dirtier? That guy fought like a heavyweight. Or thr prime Holy who was quicker but fought like a big middleweight? He threw blazing combos and more punch output.

    Im going with the mean old man
     
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  5. Bonecrusher

    Bonecrusher Lineal Champion Full Member

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    Good post, when analyzing Holyfield in H2H matchups I agree sometimes the older, stronger, heavier, more seasoned, smarter and definitely I’ll say rougher (I don’t think he was Dirty just rough) He was a mean in the trenches grinder!!!! That version of himself may actually fare better against Joe. Bigger and stronger, maybe the version that beat Tyson gets Joe outa there..??? Interesting. I’ll still take Joe to edge him in a war, either version.
     
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  6. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Frazier knocks out Holyfield late in my opinion
     
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    LD Boxer-Puncher Well-Known Member Full Member

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  8. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    For some reason Holyfield gets a lot of love in head to head matchups.

    I grew up watching the guy. Besides the point he may have cheated and took steroids, he struggled a lot in his prime. He was far from dominating. had some bad performances and losses in his prime

    To me..no way he beats a great like smokin joe who was consistently great every fight
     
  9. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    That is a valid point!
     
  10. JohnThomas1

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    Holyfield doesn't get much love in here in fantasy fights imo and nor does Frazier really.

    Holyfield lost just 3 fights in a 15 year period during which he fought plenty of good opponents. Of the losses two were to a high quality Bowe and the other to Moorer in a bout many would agree Holyfield was not himself in. Holyfield avenged this in a unification bout a few years later. Bowe was a big man and a fine fighter at this time, all trained up by Futch who at one time stated he might become the best he ever trained.

    Sure he struggled at times but excepting Moorer he still won. Holmes used to struggle against guys he was supposed to beat easily too but the thing is both still usually won.

    So i'd say Holyfield was a very consistent winner over a long period of time. In this 15 years he had one bad losing performance which may have been somewhat medical and lost two out of three to a guy who just may have simply been mostly too big and too good.
     
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  11. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Joe Frazier beats up and stops Holyfield in a war.
     
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  12. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He can't have been right for the Bowe rubber either. He doesn't look well in that one.
     
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  13. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Because of Joe's non-stop aggression, infighting, ability to cut off the ring and whiplash left look, the only fighter I'd favor to beat him on points would be peak Ali. And I don't think Holy stops Joe.
     
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  14. Birmingham

    Birmingham Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Joe too pure of a man to match Evander in that department. Frazier is a true ambassador for boxing !
     
  15. JohnThomas1

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    Fair call.