Evander Holyfield vs Lennox Lewis

I don't think you want to hear his answer to that question.

 

ha ha. I can name 10 Heavyweights who deserve top 10 more than Lennox Lewis.

 

Have at it, especially if we are talking about an undefeated Lewis which you said you would rank between 10-20.

So presumably given this 2 KO losses, he's not even top 20 now in your books..

 

Marciano maybe

 

I don't think Marciano had the kind of comp Lewis did, the number of title defenses, nor the longevity.

 

Yes,it is why said maybe because he was undefeated,actually this is the only argument for rocky

 

So as a baseline, an undefeated Lewis would rank no worse than 3 on the ATG list would you agree with that?

If so, and we factor in that he lost two but avenged both losses, how would you factor this into the equation..and which fighters would jump over him as a result?

 

The fact is that he lost against 2 average guys so it is very relevant in his actual place

 

I rank Jeffries, Johnson, Dempsey, Tunney, Louis, Marciano, Liston,Ali, Foreman, Holmes, Holyfield and Vitali klitschko above Lewis.

 

You're missing at least 7 fighters since you said he's not in your top 20. Presumably he's ranked 13 in your eyes.

And how you can rank Vitali, Tunney and Jeffries above him is a mystery to me. I think you're just pulling names out of a hat.

no Tyson, or Frazier is surprising

 

Lost to them and destroyed one in the rematch..so this has to be put into perspective.

Ali lost to Spinks and won in the rematch at about the same age, Lewis lost against Rahman, so is that relevant too?

Holmes lost twice to another Spinks as well, at about the same age as Lewis was loosing to Rahman.

So why is only one of these fighters looked down upon when he was the one fighter who most emphatically won in the rematch?

 

This is a valid argument.

One thing that gets forgotten in the Tyson, Holyfield, Lewis debate, is that there isn’t that much overlap between their primes.

I would say that Lewis was the greater heavyweight champion, but Holyfield was the greater fighter.

 

When i did read the part of ali i said... dont spend time

 

That actually works for me fine, especially coming from someone who thinks Mayweather would beat Duran.

 

Mayweather beats Duran and he would make it look easy