Evander Holyfield vs Vitali Klitschko

How did Vitali fare against Moorer, Bowe, Lewis and John Ruiz?

 

He was up 4-2 vs Lewis on all three cards, taking the fight on 2 weeks notice.

Seriously, Vitali would have KO'd Bowe, or Moorer as early as 1999. Ruiz? Please.

 

Vitali was stopped by an older and out of shape Lewis. Holyfiedl clearly did better.
Prime Bowe was better than that version of Lewis, so Vitali would lose again.

Vitali beats Ruiz by decision in my opinion.

Vitali- moorer is more difficult to predict.I favour Moorer by decision.He is more skilled.

 

Yeah , yeah..same ol racket over an over. No argument for Vitlai whatsoever. Just tear down Holyfield , that should do the trick.
No.. You got nothing to say about Vitali because there is nothing to say. He took on 15% of the worst HW era known to man while his brother dealt with the rest. That was his career.
On top of that he was a creaky , defenceless , one-dimensional , stiff ,bean pole who has ZERO wins against anybody above C-LEVEL.

Would Vitali have beaten a youthful , prime fit , fast and dynamic Shannon Briggs as easily as he beat the beyond shot version in 2010? I seriously doubt it.
He'd probably eek out a decision. Possibly. But Foreman did beat a career best version of Briggs and was robbed at FIFTY.
Who knows what Vitali will be doing at 50 , but beating top ranked HWs he most definitely won't be. At 41 he was going life and death with the useless bum Manny Charr.
That tells you all you need to know about the difference between Foreman and Vitali.

Nah. He don't have any uppercut or body shots. Vitali doesn't know how to bend his arms or know how to shorten his punches to fight in the inside.
When did Lewis ever say he was hard to hit? Post that quote into the forum. Probably another lie.

This is a misconception. Yeah , he thew a lot , but he hit NOTHING. His connect percentage was atrocious. Byrd was landing at a higher connect rate from the very first round.
Byrd with a tiny reach was hitting him with jabs , right hands and body shot at will.

Against Kevin Johnson his punch thrown to connect ratio was an embarrassing 1013/298 .

He got out jabbed 7 round to 5. This is against a guy who was literally just standing there right in front of him all night. A guy Chisora floored but Vitali couldn't. A guy Joshua blew away in pretty much the first round.

This is not just a case of Holy being infinitely better , its also a case of Vitali being ridiculously overrated.

 

The point im making is, you're criticising Holyfield for losing or struggling with guys Vitali himself never even fought.

Actually, the two guys Vitali does have as mutual opponents with Holyfield, he lost to.

Namely Lewis and Byrd.

 

Well the tribe has spoken and it's Holyfield by over 60% of the vote.

 

Doza will answer that by saying Holyfield lost to Donald and Vitali beat Donald , therefore Vitali beats Holyfield.

 

Well, Dino, you can add he did much better vs Bean, and the fact that Holyfield is 1-4 vs skilled big guys. Holyfield was sparked by a blown up middleweight. What evidence can you show me that Holyfield would beat Vitali?

Did I mention Holyfield was a dirty fighter, and PED user as a professional?

Popularity polls aside, I have shown you enough data.

 

On 2 weeks notice yes, and so did Lewis.Plus don't forget vitali wws training for another opponent and was in good shape.Obviously Lewis was not in good shape.

Prime Holyfield outpoints that version of Lewis.Vitali was stoppedby Lewis.Enough said.

 

so the poll is 100% 90s HW. In other words, YOU FLOP.

 

Well done

You won the internet jerry

9 posters voting 90s HW is an academic peer reviewed study, with a valid sample size. Its without a doubt.

 

Holyfield wasn't great at defending, that is certain I think at least.


Maybe

 

What skilled big guys did Vitali beat or fight? Holyfield fought many - Douglas , Foreman, Bowe , Lewis , Valeuv.
Vitali only ever faced one and it ended badly for him.

There's a large skill discrepancy between the two. Imagine the Holyfield who sent Douglas out the ring on a stretcher against the very poor Lewis of 2003.. I honestly believe Lewis would have been turned out for the count in similar fashion.
Vitali would have beaten Lewis if he was any good. No ifs or buts about it. He got carved up on the inside cos he has no idea what to do in there. This is where he and his brother come unstuck against elite level opposition. One dimension will only get you so far in this sport.

The same that happened against Lewis would happen against Holyfield. Too dynamic , to sharp , too fast , too tactical.

 

Holyfield only has one win against a guy over 6'4 in his prime and lost 2 out of 3 . Bowe was a inside fighter ,much easier to hit than the 6'7 lean back counter puncher Vitali . Holyfield struggles with taller guys so just that alone puts this fight in favor of the dangerously difficult 250 giant who only true loss was a shoulder /muscle tear by default . Putting aside fanboyism ,i dont see Holyfield getting past the jab of Vitali who height and different angles would frustrate Holyfield . Vitali also had power ,more than Bowe had who dropped Holyfield by accumulation . I see this late knock out for Vitali because Holyfield would bring constant pressure so he would be hittable or decision win ,it all depends what version of Vitali shows up.

 

We are talking about Holyfield here, a cruiser who used PED's to move to heavy. But to answer your question Solis, Gomez, Donald ( who beat Holyfield ) were all highly accomplished amateurs and skilled pro boxers. Donald and Gomez were about 6'4" tall. Vitali knocked them all out.

Lewis was also a skilled big man. No debate there I hope. Vitali was up 4-2 on all three scorecards, and Lewis himself never lost on points! The stoppage was a cuts loss, which could have happened from an illegal back blow ( where the laces of the gloves are ) which can be seen on film Dino.

You sure like walking into rakes. But the gag has replay value.