Evander Holyfields brain in Mike Tysons body.

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  1. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Not one mention here of the most importand factor.

    Technique.

    Dempsey had it, Langford had it, Louis had it, Tyson had it.

    Foreman or even Ali and Liston did not have that final maestro's touch.
     
    janitor, Sep 25, 2007
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  2. godking

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    Liston from the footage i have sen of him actually was a very technically proficient fighter
     
    godking, Sep 25, 2007
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  3. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    He certainly was.

    Technicaly proficient and just plain good at everything.

    What he perhaps never atained is the blend of power, speed, delivery and method that characterised fighters like Louis and Tyson.
     
    janitor, Sep 25, 2007
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  4. godking

    godking Active Member Full Member

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    True but Listons handspeed was average at best.

    Tyson and Louis had great handspeed

    Liston would never get the blend of speed and power that Tyson and Louis had . He just did'nt have the handspeed.
     
    godking, Sep 25, 2007
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  5. achillesthegreat

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    I've already mentioned it.

    Technique is not talent though. Technique is learnt, you are not born with it.

    Tyson had the best technique at what he did. Dempsey, Langford and Louis were flawed in different areas. Like Ali and Foreman they had good points and bad points.

    At what Tyson did he had VERY few technical bad poitns.
     
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  6. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Not true.

    Dempsey - strength, speed and power. Just like Tyson.
     
    achillesthegreat, Sep 25, 2007
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  7. Grabonator

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    It was not tysons brain who tought hom to fight like he did, it was the great Cus d'amato. If this man lived longer Tyson doesend need an Holy brain to be successfull for a longer time.
     
    Grabonator, Sep 25, 2007
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  8. janitor

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    But those that he did have were critical. I think that had Damato lived longer he would have adressed these flaws.

    I tend to think that Tyson was about where Louis was at the time of the Baer fight whenn his aprenticship was indefinitely put on hold.
     
    janitor, Sep 26, 2007
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  9. janitor

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    Fighter slike Dempsey, Langford, Louis and Tyson represent the intersection between talent and technique where the true maestro is born.
     
    janitor, Sep 26, 2007
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