Even if Floyd decides to trade and beat down Hatton. He still handpicked him..

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by eze, Nov 8, 2007.


  1. Illmatic

    Illmatic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    just stop it....heres some fuzzy math for ya

    8 million + PPV sales (over 300k) + undisputed welterweight title
    8 million + WBO title

    :think......if titles dont matter and championships do, and fighters want to make more money, what would a fighter choose?
     
  2. Illmatic

    Illmatic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :patsch Mayweather had the fight with Judah all set up before he lost to Baldo, so he went through with it anyway since it was already worked out. Judah reduced his purse and they went through with it anyway.

    Many dont remember that many people chose Judah to beat him b/c of the rarity of someone having a speed advantage over Mayweather, not to mention the power advantage.
     
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  4. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    I think that in the Baldomir fight Floyd could have hit Baldomir anytime he felt like doing it tbh. But instead of hitting him with alot of effective punches and mabye even forced a stoppage due to accumulation, he coasted .

    Not that there is anything wrong with that. It would just look better and make him more fan friendly if he just let his hands go a bit more, when he clearly could have, with not alot of added risk.
     
  5. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The interview where Margarito's manager explains the situation was on youtube , Im not sure if it still there or not.
     
  6. Illmatic

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  7. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    You dont know that for sure. And PBF made more money by fighting Baldomir anyway.
     
  8. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    NO wrong ESPN Brian Kenny Strongly criticized Floyd for fighting Zab instead of the True 147 king Baldomir , As well as other boxing critics thought that floyd should have fought Baldi ..

    Top rank originally offered Floyd 6 mill and then told Floyd to take or leave it , Arum then made the announcement that the deal was off the table but quickly back peddled after, the Zab fight did good numbers and Baldi KOed Gatti and the fact that Baldi turned Margartio down to land a deal with floyd and 1.5 million dollar payday.
    Thats when Arum offered floyd 8 mill baldi and company countered with 8mil and the true world recognized 147 pound champion .
     
  9. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    I just asked the same question in a thread asking where's Requiem4Science. Both have been MIA for a minute.
     
  10. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    it documented google it. if you don't know that then you have not been following the saga of Arum vs Floyd and maybe you should stop now .
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    Margarito's Eager But Floyd's "making excuses already"
    By Scoop Malinowski

    "It made me even more sure I can knock this guy (Mayweather) out."

    July 29th is the date that has been set aside for the big Floyd Mayweather-Antonio Margarito IBF/WBO Welterweight unification pay-per-view showdown.

    Boxinginsider.com asked Margarito manager Sergio Diaz how the negotiations for that eagerly-anticipated clash are coming along. It seems not so well.

    "I do know Floyd's making excuses already," said Diaz by phone from Los Angeles on Friday. "He's saying he's leaving the decision up to his people, he's talking about his hand hurting."

    When Top Rank promoter Bob Arum offered the Mayweather fight opportunity to Team Margarito, Diaz said, "We got excited. Antonio is ready to fight anybody at the top. Anybody. But other fighters don't want to step in with Antonio. Bob Arum has made offers to Mosley, Vargas, Hatton (in the beginning of 2006), Winky Wright - he didn't want that fight either, and Zab Judah - before he lost to Baldomir."

    Diaz also stated that Arum has made previous substantial offers to the Mayweather camp to fight Margarito. "Arum offered pretty big money to Floyd - around $6 million. For some reason Floyd keeps saying, Who's Antonio? That he's not on my level. Who has he fought? Why doesn't he want to fight Antonio? The money is there. He should be fighting Antonio. He'll make more for fighting Antonio than he made for Judah ($5 million)."

    Hey, $6 million is more than $5 million...What about Floyd's signature catchphrase, "If it makes dollars it makes sense"? Were we hearing hypocricy? Can the pound-for-pound best fighter in the world be a hypocrite?

    Diaz made it crystal clear the Margarito camp is not stalling the Mayweather fight from happening because of money issues. "We're not demanding the big money. Antonio wants the name opponent. After the big win, the money will come after."

    When asked why the just-turned 28-year-old Antonio Margarito seems so supremely confident about conquering the unbeaten pound-for-pound icon, and if the Mexican sees flaws in Mayweather that the rest of us don't, Diaz revealed the following. "Antonio is very confident he can beat Floyd. He says he will knock Floyd out. With pressure. Pressure."

    Talk about true confidence and not redundant trash talk blathering...Diaz just gave away the Margarito playbook for how they plan on beating Floyd!

    Margarito could not be in Las Vegas last Saturday because a family member was involved in a tragic car accident. But Margarito watched Mayweather struggle with Judah on TV and is now more confident than ever he will leave Floyd destroyed.

    "With the little pressure that Zab put on Floyd, Floyd got a little bit lost," said Diaz about Margarito's observations of Mayweather-Judah. "Mayweather was never pressured like that by a bigger fighter. Now Antonio is even bigger and stronger then Zab Judah. Antonio is much bigger and much stronger, and he carries a stronger punch.

    Antonio, his confidence, just got even bigger. After watching (Mayweather-Judah) he told me, 'It made me even more sure I can knock this guy out.' In fact, Antonio says, 'I would not be surprised if Mayweather doesn't take the fight with me. But the people should know why he's not fighting me - because he's afraid to get in the ring with me.'"

    When asked when was Margarito's last real loss, he mentioned the controversial Daniel Santos match which was prematurely stopped, but when asked again, When was Margarito's last REAL loss. Diaz said, "Was when Antonio was 18-years-old in Culver City - Rodney Jones. Ten years ago. This was a fight Antonio took at the last minute. He lost a unanimous decision."

    Before closing the interview, Diaz wanted to add one more comment which was aimed at critics who constantly question Margarito's status and the marquee value of his opposition. "Antonio has never had the luxury of picking his opponents. He doesn't take anything for granted. He's dedicated to his business. He fights whoever the promoter tells us to fight. Except for Baldomir but Baldomir didn't take the fight. Our promoter tells us when and where we're fighting and we just get ready and go there. Floyd has picked all of his fights."

    Now Floyd has a big decision to make. The timing is right for Floyd vs. Margarito. Everyone wants it, including Bob Arum. Will Floyd or won't Floyd pick Antonio Margarito as his next fight? As the self-proclaimed pound-for-pound best boxer on the planet and one of the best of all-time, Floyd Mayweather has a higher standard to upkeep. Floyd has an obligation to the sport to take on the best competition. If Floyd were to back down from the $6 million and Antonio Margarito on July 29th so as to not take any dangerous risks with potential big paydays looming against Hatton, De La Hoya and Cotto, the boxing media and fans may have to disqualify Floyd from his pound-for-pound perch.

    If Floyd were to agree to fight Margarito on July 29th, he should be commended enormously. And the great sport of boxing would have another reason to celebrate in 2006. As a fascinating showdown between the contrasting styles of the flashy and technically brilliant Mayweather against the powerful and relentless Margarito would be an aesthetic and artistic masterpiece for sure.

    Boxinginsider.com will be watching this situation closely. Stay tuned as next week we will speak with "The man nobody wants to fight" himself, Antonio Margarito.
     
  11. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Again you must be schooled , The Zab fight was already a go and agreed upon, and sigh for, all Zab had to do was get by Baldi . After that didn't happen Brian Kenny and other boxing critics cried injustice on behalf of Baldi and demanded Floyd face Baldi if he ever wanted to be the legitimate 147 champion .
    Margario was a non-factor the WBO was a non- factor .. Baldi was the true Welter weight champion and Zab was obligated renegotiated contract deal ..

    you ask for proof that Arum offered 6 mill you got it.

    I used Scoop Malinowski for legitimacy of the article since he is one of Floyd biggest haters, but he does state that Arum offered floyd 6 mill and other article stating Arum saying the deal was off.
     
  12. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    So basically Floyd stuck with his plans that he was orignally going through with, which led to a big payday against Baldomir and the lineal title.
     
  13. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Anyone on this forum any length of time knows I don't care much for Floyd. (Immature, spoiled, insecure, disrespectful etc.)

    However, at the moment, he is the best boxer fighting today. He would most likely beat anyone currently fighting between 140 and 154. IMO, Oscar and Shane are the only guys I would give a good chance (though still short of 50% chance).

    The others, Williams, Margarito, Hatton, .... 5-10 % chance.

    Like him or not, he's in a league of his own, for now.
     
  14. SteveO

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    Everyone who hates Floyd will never like him.
     
  15. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nope the contract was done , and king just renegotiated the contract , and again for the umpteenth time Maragarito and the WBO was a non factor.

    The only player that mattered was Baldi and Zab. Arum tried to get land the fight with baldi after he defeated Zab and Gatti , which is why he retracted his offer to floyd for 6mil after bali turned him down and informed everyone that he only wanted floyd , arum then tried renegotiate with floyd and up the purse to 8 mil after he had stated that he didn't need floyd and no way would he pay any fighter over 6 mill for a fight of this caliber.

    bottom line is Floyd didn't Arum or Margarito and if thats not proof enough for you , just do a who's who and where are they now , on both floyd and margarito's career ..