Even round scoring

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  1. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Judges cannot score even rounds correct??? Unless there is a KD or a foul.

    So why do commentators, pundits and fans score even round????
     
  2. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Course they can. If theres no clear victor then the round is scored even. Johnny Nelson won one of his fights 120-119 on a judges card. 11 rounds even- and one to 'the entertainer'.
     
  3. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    I think that there should be more even rounds given, and more 10-8 rounds, even when there are no KD's.

    If you are just edging a round and suffer a flash KD in the last 10 seconds, you will lose 10-8, yet if you pretty much beat the **** out of your opponent yet don't KO him, it will be 10-9 unless he doesn't throw a punch.

    For instance, Hatton vs Collazo. First round Ricky KD's Collazo and dominates the round, 10-8 fair enough. Fast forward to the last round, all Hatton does is charge forward, doesn't land (or throw for that matter) anything meaningful and ships a **** load in return, yet that one would be 10-9!
     
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    Knock down is what people pay to see so they should be pushed.

    I really though you could not score even rounds as a judge.
     
  5. PaddyD1983

    PaddyD1983 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Think I've spoke about this on a seperate thread with you...

    I'm all for more liberal approach to even rounds. But think liberal use of 10-8 rounds is too easy to abuse!
     
  6. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    I think so!

    There is no right and wrong way to score a fight, and as Rob says, if you are KD'd you should suffer. Trouble is, there is a difference between say Naz vs Kelley (1st Naz KD) and JC vs BHop which could hardly be considered flash. But I suppose a KD is a KD!

    The last thing you would want though is fights like 120-96! If Alfonso Gomez had gone the distance with Cotto it would have been worse, I had him 13 points down on the cards at the time of his withdrawal :rofl
     
  7. achillesthegreat

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    Easy rounds should be used. All too often boxers don't define the round. They should lose out on winning that round. Sometimes a technical bout where they are very defensive and only throw 30 punches is easy to view as an even round. Often you'll watch a round and can't go either way. Instead of just picking a fighter, call it even and don't create a controversial card. Close rounds often **** up scoring cos they are scored one way or the other.
     
  8. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    I agree.

    One that springs to mind is Hatton vs Collazo. I scored it 114-112 whilst a mate of mine also had 114-112 yet we only agreed on 4 out of 12 rounds - 1, 8, 11 & 12.
     
  9. robpalmer135

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    I would have scored a lot of Calzaghe Hopkins rounds even.
     
  10. toffeejack

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    Even rounds should be encouraged IMO.

    Too many controversional points decisions over the years have been down to the fact that even rounds aren't encouraged.
     
  11. D-MAC

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    I remember when Sky used to cover big fights from America, and Darke would always say that "the judges over here never score a round even". Its not a rule, just a generalisation. Maybe thats why you get so many ****ed-up decisions over there, with one judge goin 5 points one way, the second five points the other, and the 3rd has it even; this is down to the judges getting split on tight rounds, marking it as a 10-9 either way rather than calling it 10-10...plus the fact that a lot of judges are shite.

    If you find it hard to figure out who won a round, then there should be no problem with scoring it 10-10.
     
  12. rooq

    rooq Rooq's Boxing Promoter Full Member

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    exactly. sometimes you end up with very close fights ending in wide UD margins which don't reflect how competitive the fight was.
     
  13. ghostlybadge

    ghostlybadge Punch Drunk Full Member

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    i think i have only ever scored 5 or 6 10-10 rounds as said above there is always a winner in a round
     
  14. mike464

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    Really? That's crazy. Judges can score rounds however they like as long as they give the winner 10 can't they?

    I used to score even rounds but I found that I abused it. Sometimes when "my man" (as FW would say) was leading but slowing down I'd find reasons to give him a share of the round.

    I've noticed the British commentators will score lots of even rounds while Lederman from HBO always seems to find a winner.
     
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    lederman sucks