Even Roy Jones doesnt give hopkins a chance

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  1. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I know I know, and I respect that. Won't stop me from pointing it out though.
     
  2. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    No what Jones did in the Johnson fight was nothing ..You can't use that example becuase Jones had just come back affter getting KO ed clearly he wasn't in that fight mentally ..

    When have you seen Jones not do jack **** for 9rds ..And how do u know Calzaghe has the pwoer of Johsnon ?Who was his last KO and was that at Lt Heavy ???
     
  3. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Calzaghe's last KO was the fight before the Kessler fight.

    And Jones has zero workrate now. Even against Trinidad, Jones stopped punching when he punched. Calzaghe may or may not stop him on accumilation. But he will beat him.
     
  4. Imperial1

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    Are you talking about Manfredo ??Are u serious ??? I don't think its that far fetched that Joe out works him but garuntee u it won't be as easy as u make it sound .Jones' handspeed is still better than Joe's ..Only thing is Joe is the younger fighter .
     
  5. Larson

    Larson Paenkhay Full Member

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    B-Hop and Roy have never really been too friendly towards one another
     
  6. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Of course I'm serious. You act like that KO is any less worthy than the mediocre fighters that Johnson has stopped. If Johnson, who is not a big puncher at all can wear Jones out and catch him, Calzaghe, who has power but doesn't use it, can if he wears Jones out and sits on his punches.

    Before you argue the point, watch Calzaghe early on before his hand problems. He has power, his hand prevent him from using it.
     
  7. Caliboxing

    Caliboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That sounds about right but I think Calzaghe will pull it off by a few rounds.
     
  8. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    Oh BS. Calzaghe didn't even hurt Manfredo. He overwhelmed Manfredo, who panicked, and the ref jumped in way early. The last time Calzaghe rocked a fighter was against Veit. I think Calzaghe will win this fight fairly easily, but there's almost no chance Calzaghe will actually hurt him with a punch. Maybe make him look like a tomato via accumulation, like he did against Lacy, but that's it.

    Edit: was talking about Hopkins there. Whether Calzaghe might be able to catch Jones is another question. I doubt he KOs Jones though - just doesn't have that kind of one-punch power.
     
  9. Imperial1

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    First off that fight was stopped way to prematurly !! How the hell can you even count that as a KO ??? Thats was one of the worst stoppages in boxing !!!

    And Johsnon scored a KO after he just unloaded on Jones for 9rds streight ..Please tell me what fighter wouldn't succomb to a barrage of punches like that just standing there ??

    And I don't know where you get this notion that Joe has power !!If he did the Lacy fight would have never went 12 rds ..The only time I saw power from Joe was maybe in the Byron Mitchell fight after he was floored but again another fight stopped prematurly ..I have seen enough of his fights to know he's not known for his power ..Anyhthing that you say is grossly exaggerated ..
     
  10. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Michalczewski hasn't fought in 2 years but if he comes back against Rocky then they should definitely fight.

    Though who knows...it would still be a big money fight in Germany, but the hype has long since died over in the States. Roy would make more money rematching Hopkins or losing a UD to Calzaghe (I don't see a stoppage either).

    And I disagree that there was no reason to go to Germany early on, not only was there a career payday but there was also the matter of establishing a clear #1 at the weight. Of course the fight could have happened in the USA as well, but negotiations didn't turn out to well (let's leave it at that :yep ).
     
  11. kg0208

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    No, it's not exaggerated. I am not going to argue with you on a subjective subject. It's fairly well known that Calzaghe was a banger early on in his career but hand injuries caused him to change his style. The power is not gone, he doesn't have the instruments to channel it. Thus the reason the Lacy fight went 12 rounds.

    As far as a fighter taking a barrage of punches over 9 rounds? Many fighters have and stood up to it. Jones doesn't want to be hit anymore. It's obvious.
     
  12. Imperial1

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    And if his hand injuries hindered him from scoring KO's before what will change now ??

    And the barrage of punches were greeted w/no return fire..Sorry I don't anyone who would not get dropped by just taking punches and pucnhes ..I have seen people take punishment for 9 rds but at least they fought back in the Johnson fight that was not the case watch it again and see how many punches Roy actually threw in that fight ..
     
  13. 41fever

    41fever Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Of course not...they r in comp for P4P and ATG status!
     
  14. Smazz20

    Smazz20 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Gone off topic a bit here. But from what I understand it was a case of Bernard wanting 2 things. A catchweight and a 50/50. Jones should of offered him one or the other to see if he'd take it. Either take a 60/40 split in Jones favour to meet at a catchweight, or take a 50/50 split to fight at LH. Either way, what's done is done and it's Hopkins and not Jones who's missed out on that one.
     
  15. Rampage

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    you guys are underestimating b-hop...i dont recall calzaghe ever being in there with a rough, hard nosed fighter like hopkins. i slightly favor calzaghe in the matchup but wouldn't be surprised if hopkins pulled out the win.