Even though Mijares is getting the W's, this is pissing me off.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Amsterdam, May 19, 2008.


  1. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    This guy DOMINATED Munoz badly, he really messed him up and showed an amazing defensive display, as well as amazing precision boxing display through the fight and easily could have stopped him if he went for it just a little bit more(but fought smart), Munoz was brutalised and stunned around the ring several times in the fight and realistically took 2 rounds at best, 1 was the 1st, in which Mijares essentially gave to him and the other would have been the 7th I believe, which was competitive, but could be an even, or either way.

    So Munoz either got 2 rounds, 1 round or 1 and 1 even maximum, yet one judge scored it for him and the two others had him 4 and 5 rounds scored, with Mijares winning.

    The scorecards should have read very wide points for Mijares, yet we have an SD, indicating a close bout, which is was NOT. Everyone who has seen the fight has not given Munoz more than 2 rounds.

    The other recent fight was Navarro, where Doug Tucker scored every round for Navarro, despite Navarro getting outlanded 300+ to 120 in punches. A dominant performance, yet another SD.

    What is the deal with this ****? And then the other judge for Navarro-Mijares had it 115-113 Mijares, learn how to score a ****ing fight you imbecile, that was a 9-3 Mijares, not a 7-5.

    I truly believe this explains the SD to Kawashima first go around and the draw to Maldonado, as he's dominating these guys and getting close scores, this is truly getting ridiculous.

    What happens if he fights a competitive fight and wins 8 rounds to 4? Does he lose by SD that time? Will people accept that as a legit loss, just because the moron judges can't give him any credit here for CLEAR AND DOMINANT ROUNDS?

    What do you think of this ****ing bull****? It's pissing me off. This is one of the best fighters in boxing and he's being screwed over, despite getting the wins.
     
  2. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    I made a thread about this yesterday

    the only judge to give Munoz the fight was a WBA appointed judge.

    its ironic that before the fight the WBA was complaining that they werent getting more of their judges in.
     
  3. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What happened with the Navarro score? I didn't see the fight but it seems that if it was a shutout for anyone, it would be Mijares. The general reaction is that he won the vast majority of rounds so I assumed that the 120-108 scorecard was a basic error and would be switched around.
     
  4. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    There is some weird **** going on with him getting shafted into SD's, not to mention just how ****ed up the 120-108 one was last time.

    In your opinion, what the hell is the deal with that?? Is some part of the "establishment" trying to hold him down/screw him over??
     
  5. Tunney5

    Tunney5 Active Member Full Member

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    I agree. The SD result really put a damper on what was a brilliant display of boxing skill. Judges like the one who scored the fight for Munoz shouldn't ever be allowed to work a fight again.

    Mijares is an elite fighter, but he's not been getting the recognition he deserves.
     
  6. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    He is awesome and fairly new to me I must admit, but he still pisses me off for OWNING my boy Arce!:yep
     
  7. Carlos Primera

    Carlos Primera Boxing Addict Full Member

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    the SD's certainly are bad marks to awesome performances. maybe that will give mijares extra motivation to gun for the KO, just to erase all doubt.
     
  8. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Because the lower divisions get less coverage, there is more corruption that goes on down there. TONS of bad decisions, sadly, TONS.

    Mijares is very entertaining to watch, precise and throws with intention, great defence and even mixes it up here and there with some inside slugging, he's also a very nice guy, very marketable. He'll beat everybody at 115 convincingly, many at 118 as well, I just fear the judges are going to **** him over on paper(which has become increasinly a joke), and rob him of well deserved victories that make him a HOF fighter.

    The guys amazing, nobody has anything bad to say about him, even though these are SD's on paper, these fights have been utter dominations Pipe, Navarro and Munoz were ****ed up badly, Mijares isn't a power hitter, but he throws with intention and tally's up damage with those accurate blows.
     
  9. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Arce got maybe 1 round, yet one idiot judge gave Arce 3 rounds. Two of Mijares' rounds in the Arce fight were such brutal 1 sided rounds, that they ought to have been 10-8's.

    So far Mijares has for wins -

    Arce - Brutal domination
    Navarro - Outclassing
    Munoz - Utter domination
    Reynaldo Lopez - Class domination
    Kawashima - SD and TKO 10

    Shaping up very nicely there, he consistently looks better every fight, highly intelligent craftsmen.

    I'm essentially done with the religious hyping of him, he's very well known on the forum and most people appreciate him as a top fighter now, but I've still got to hype and prove Gamboa, as we have some doubters.
     
  10. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Amsterdam you don't need to hype a fighter for people to appreciate him as a top fighter. As the fighter proves himself against good competition, people will recognize it.
     
  11. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Many times they are vastly underlooked though. Even after Lacy, Calzaghe impressed but was very underlooked until the Kessler bout, what helped him gain a bit more regard on this site in particular was CHJ's hilarious material.

    My Mijares hyping got everybody who posts here regularly to check him out sooner than they first saw him against Navarro(many missed the beautiful Arce display due to it being on a 2nd rate PPV).

    So it served two purposes, providing a laugh for some and bringing a few new fans in, or at least people who'd look him up more so than otherwise. Now most people are impressed by him or a fan.

    'Koki Kameda' is another strange hyping mechanism that has brought attention to someone Americans would otherwise not even know much about.

    Get what I mean?

    I hate when excellent fighters go underlooked and subpar fighters are massively hyped. So I find ways to hype them on forum's with a lot of fans that immediatley get attention and soon get the fighter a few more fans, which then leads to another set of fans as those fans talk about the fighter on other forums.

    It does more than you think. My Mijares hype here even trickled over Boxrec.com and *********** forums without me ever posting about him there once.
     
  12. huki

    huki huk huk ^_^;; Full Member

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    It really makes no sense. Why would they constantly try to screw him over? And this last fight was in his home town! How nuts is that..

    It seriously makes me afraid to bet on Mijares again. I had a lot of money on him for the Navarro fight and even more on the Munoz fight. When the scorecard for Munoz was read and the next scorecard was 115-113, I was ready to explode. It's disgusting what's going on with these scorecards and I can't figure out any reason for it.
     
  13. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    At the time of that fight, I must admit I didn't know **** at all about Mijares, but loved Arce! Man did Arce get a ridiculous ass kickin that night!:yep

    Even though some ohter "names" I knew were on there including Pac, I ordered that PPV to see Arce.
     
  14. I_Neutral

    I_Neutral P4P Emeritus Full Member

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    Yeah i couldn't believe it when they said split decision. I had Mijares winning 118-111
     
  15. Rebel-INS

    Rebel-INS Mighty Healthy Full Member

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    I believe the WBA judges score in the Navarro fight must've been meant for Mijares. Either that or it seriously needs to be looked into by the organization.