Ever notice how many dont count Floyd Mayweathers win vs Ricky Hatton...

Its one of his better wins..I dont think anyone can doubt that.

But Hatton fans are going to talk it down because it wasnt Hatton's best weight and the evidence is there I guess because he arguably lost to Collazo in his only other outing there.
The 140-147 jump can be a big one for some fighters...Floyd was an above average height for the 130-140 weight range and him being the quality of fighter he was it wasnt so bad..even though I thought he looked out of his element to a degree up there.

I personally feel Ricky is a little overrated in general at the moment...and has been for much of his elite level career..and that had more to do with it. That takes away a tad from the historical impact of that win IMO, at least for the time being.

 

personally the weight had zero effect on the fight....let be real

Hatton looked as sharp as in the fight with floyd he wasn't slow in any way...

the fact is he got outboxed thats why he lost.... (and Im saying this as one WHO WENT FOR HATTON)

Tell me all you who will blame it on the weight.....wtf did 7 extra pounds have to do with Ricky walking into a perfectly timed perfectly executed left hook??

Nothing ....cmon let gets real you could argue that Ricky would have been better at 140....but then again so was Floyd....

Nope weight had ZERO to do with this loss....it was one of floyds greatest wins IMO

 

Thats what you said.

I tried to answer that. Hatton fans say the weight was a factor..I dont think it was a factor compared to other more important ones like Mayweather just straight up being a level better.

 

what makes Collazo "really great" again? the dudes a top 10 Welter (bottom half .. Mosley, Margarito, Clottey, Cotto and yes Berto are all better then Luis IMO)

but I won't call Collazo really great.

I swear he's one of the most over hyped fighter on these forums.

For someone who has a losing record in title fights 2-3 Collazo get's WAY too much credit for coming up short.

and I guess it's "arguable" that Berto beat him

but at the same time, I think it needs to be taken into consideration that Collazo's kind of a choker

and that's probably why he lost to Berto

**gets a free pass for Mosley since he did break a thumb.

 

Hatton fans love to bring up the weight issue, but in reality Hatton looks and performs at 147 no different than at 140. The only difference is at 147 Hatton is like a hobbit compared to most fighters at WW.. that's why Collazo made him look so average.... against Mayweather, Hatton was fighting someone who also wasn't ideally a WW.

 

The weight as becomes an issue somehow even though he's weighed 154 when fighting at Jr WW. And he weighed 152 against Paulie.

Somehow people think he weighed the 160 against Collazo.

 

Hatton didn't bulk up for this fight, he just didn't have to drain himself before it.

Mayweather is a JWW who doesn't drain himself, which is why he weighs exactly the same on fight night as he does during the weigh-in.

It was a JWW fight where neither guy had to cut weight. It was a very, very good win. Just like Hopkins over Pavlik.

 

To be honest, I don't rate Hatton that highly, and I don't understand why he is in the P4P rankings, because, at the end of the day, he got there by virtue of a win over an old, inactive Tszyu who still gave him a good fight for 11 rounds before retiring.

Has Hatton looked particularly good since the Tszyu fight? I don't think so.

His best win is the Tszyu one.

Who of note has he beaten since?

Maussa, Collazo, Urango, Castillo, Lazcano and Malignaggi...who of these guys are elite, or were elite when Hatton fought them?

Castillo is the only one you could call elite, and he was a career 135lber and was clearly past his best. He already had 7 losses before he fought Hatton and he's looked pretty ordinary against the opposition he's faced since.

So who is it that Hatton has beaten that puts him so highly in the P4P rankings? :think

On subject, Hatton is linear #1 at 140, yet PBF made the fight at 147...I think that takes some of the shine off his victory over Hatton.

 

Hatton just isn't the same fighter at 147. Some boxers are just built that way. I think that he really needs to train his ass off in order to make 140, which is why he is such a different fighter there... and his conditioning is just ridiculous. At 147, I don't think that he has to train as hard, and I don't think that he enters the ring with the same fire. Hatton might balloon up in weight, but it isn't as if that weight is muscle mass or something.

Besides that, I think that Joe Cortez ruined that fight for most people. I can't recall too many fights where a ref interfered... or made such an impact on a fight during the action. Hatton literally spent half of the fight arguing with Cortez, and never seemed to regain his composure after having that point taken from him. Yet, Cortez allowed Mayweather to get 50 warnings for the elbow, and turn his cheek to the other 50 times. I mean, Cortez was LITERALLY slapping Hattons gloves off, yanking on his arms during the action. Just awful. I felt that Hatton was doing VERY good up until the point deduction.

 

Just a few haters trying to make a great win look crap, mostly Margarito fans who don't really exist right now. Hatton is the one who called for this fight, as far as I remember Mayweather was retired and even called off a rematch with DLH. It was Hatton who insisted he wanted the fight so they contacted him about it and he openly stated he wants to move up for it and also fight in the US, which they agreed on.

Now that the fight is over and the result is as expected no one wants to give credit, who gives a damn?, in the long run it will be looked at as a great win whether people like it or not. About the issues with the referee, some of you guys need to watch Hatton's fight with Kostya Tszyu. That wasn't a boxing match, not even close, it was Hatton applying cheating tactics from round 1 to 11 and getting away with it, he also nearly got a low blow scored as a knockdown for crying out loud. That fight was a fiasco, if peopleexpected the same to happen against Mayweather then they need to watch the Tszyu fight again.