Funny you say that, C. I've been with Freddie Roach when he was trainin' Wlad, briefly. Freddie had to get braces for his elbows when he was doin' pads for Wlad.
How long ago did you spar with Arroyo? How would you describe the experience? Anything special stand out?
When you say you "have more of a pro style," 401, do you mean you like to trade and bang to the body?
No...I knew what to expect. I was training with them at the time...and the disparity in talent wasn't as large at the time as it is now. Since they've both gone on to fight pro, the edge I had in experience at the time is null (but not many can say they had that when they sparred a pro, which is why I wasn't overwhelmed). I was the Pele Reid of nobodies...:yep ...if it happened now, my story would be like everybody else's though. One of pain.
Yep. A bunch of them from Jr. MW to HW. I learned how important it is to relax in the ring, invest in body work, and throw unorthodox shots now and then --hard.
Can you remember your reaction, S89, when you first got hit with a good shot? Very few good pros get the hang of relaxin'. Did you have a seminal moment that illustrated it to you?
I sparred a guy at my old gym who was pro. He had a pretty bad record but still gave me a beating. Was fun though and I did learn a bit.
The only one that people may remember is Ernie Chavez. This was back in the late '80's. Pretty tough little scrawny dude. What did I learn? When a guy is an undefeated up and comer even if you outweigh him by 20 lbs remember to protect your damn body.
Think Chavez comes back to me, D: A gritty, stoic, workman-like-guy, pretty good balance, sort of a busy, straight-ahead plodder with a predictable offense and not much head movement. Think at some point he was on the cusp, but lost track of him. Not withstanding your bruised body, was he goin' all out?