Every fight should be open scoring

Would be great but would be so tough to limit just to the teams, you'd have to think the scores would get overheard or spotted if it were on some sort of app. Mind you, it could create some dramatic fights if the scores got out and fighter X needed a knockout in the championship rounds for example.

 

I saw this in mexico. Wasnt so sure I liked it but it was better than 90% of the cards we get here.

 

I would have no problem with that.

 

In every other sport, where there is an active score, you know exactly what you have to do to earn a "score". None of those sports are "judged" subjectively so it's a false equivalency.

If Loma thought he was cruising to victory, then he made an error in judgement. He should have known that it was a close fight and he shouldn't have taken the 12th round off. I think the scoring is being used as a crutch by Loma fans to cover for the fact that he didn't fight with the urgency that he needed to in the 12th round. Easier said than done, easy for fans to say he should have fought harder in round 12 after fighting hard in round 10 and 11, but the fact of the matter is that he, as you said, took the 12th round off. He shouldn't have. That was his mistake and that was why he lost.

Here's the problem with open scoring. Lets say the scores get announced after 10 rounds, and a fighter realizes he's winning, by more than 2 rounds with 2 rounds to go, lets say, he then decides to take less risks and not even fight knowing that he'll win even if he gives away the last 2 rounds. If he doesn't know the score, then he takes more risks, maybe gets caught and knocked down and more drama is created.

The point is, that, not knowing what the score is creates organic drama because it gives incentive for both fighters to fight their hearts out till the final bell. if you know what the score is, then your strategy adjusts. And if the score is announced, it can discourage the fighter who is losing in what would be seen as an even fight if they don't know the scores. The reason why it's better to wait until the end to hear the scores is simple - the judges should not be influencing the fight and strategy of the fighters while the fight is being contested. To have open scoring is to give judges too much power to influence the fight itself.

 

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The last thing boxing needs is change in a new direction. What it does need is a return to the way things were when boxing was great. Things like:
15 round fights
8 weight divisions or maybe 9, add a super heavy division
1 champ per division
Same day weigh-ins
Fighters must FIGHT their way to #1 contender status
Champ must defend 4X per year (my addition)
Referees that let fights go longer, Steve Smoger-types, etc.

Oh well, a man can dream......

 

On one hand - what is the problem with knowing it? In the end, they will know it anyway. I doubt this will stop the corruption because it is so bold. But on the other, it can lead to fighters who know they are ahead enough to win, so they can just play it safe with the least interaction possible, thus degrading the rest of the rounds. Like in a soccer game when one of the teams scores a goal and went into defensive mode. Of course, such a situation can motivate the fighter who is losing the fight to push harder.

 

Promoters will never let that happen. I told my brother there was no way Loma was winning, they were evenly matched at this point with the judges favoring Haney and Haney being too big to get KOd. I don’t think Loma took off the last round willingly though. I think he doesn’t have the stamina to go 12 hard rounds.

 

I'd like that, in a 10 rounder after 5 rounds show the judges cards.

 

Why would the losing fighter give up and not just take more risk going for the KO to win?

 

I'm positive I've seen it done every 4 rounds in a 12 rounder. I want to say it was a big fight too, maybe one of the Klitschko's?

 

They might, but that's not necessarily a good thing. From what I remember during the recent experience, the winning fighter became very conservative and *so did* the losing fighter, who was reduced to looking for a home run shot. It makes for a deflating experience as a fan and a combatant.

Besides, open scoring doesn't change the problem everyone wants to solve - poor judging. Under the current setup the individual rounds become public, so open scoring doesn't given you any visibility you don't already have. It's just earlier.

There are situations when it would help (e.g., ODLH vs Trinidad), but on balance I think it's a net negative.

 

I don't see how it helps against incompetence/corruption. Unless you want to watch the b.s unfold in real time.

 

It helps because if a guy thinks he’s winning. He’ll know better. It serves an impetus also, which when neither guys knows where they stand have little reason to commit.

Fulton vs Inoue I believe will have open scoring. Judge it then. In America Inoue could think he’s winning the fight when in actuality they’re taking it from him. In Japan he’ll know if he needs to try to tear Fultons head off.

And no one can use the excuse “I thought I was winning so I took the round off”.

 

Off the top of my head I can’t think of any sport which the participants are u able to find out how they are doing during the event. Imagine a game of cricket, baseball, basketball etc and the teams don’t know who is winning but everyone says it’s ok as they don’t want the referees to know the score in case they are biased.

Shows exactly how much of a sport boxing actually is.