Every fighter thinks he is invincible until...

Uh. Hopkins lost to Jermain Taylor twice, and lost to Calzaghe, and his style is close to John Ruiz. He is horrible to watch fight.

 

1) Decent win, but Glen has since been shown for what he is - a decent journeyman.

2) Great win, but aginst a naturally lighter man

3) Decent win, but aginst a naturally much lighter man who had been in semi-retirement for years.

4) Uhh.... Taylor won those fights. They were close, but he lost. I personally saw it as 1 draw and 1 Hopkins win, but what you or I think doesn't matter. He lost.

5) Tarver is overrated as hell, but I loved that fight. Hopkins dominated and looked great. Fantastic win.

6) Very good win, but against an naturally lighter man (I'm starting to see a trend...)

7) Calzaghe - the biggest ego in boxing?!?!?!? WTF?? Oh, and Hopkins also lost that fight. Unlike the Taylor fights I had him losing a close decision too.



Overall, I kind of agree. I think Hops is being overlooked in this fight and it could bite the Pavlik fans in the ass. Hopkins is one of my all-time favourite fighters also.

But lets not go overboard... :yep

 

Guzman won almost every round against Barrios.

Guzman also has the perfect style to defeat a counter-puncher like Hopkins.

 

That's one of the most overrated wins of modern times. Johnson was far from a "monster". His resume was stacked with nothing but bums and given his lack of accomplishment, he really didn't even deserve a title shot. He was nowhere near the fighter he'd eventually become. Below the likes of Tito, Vanderpool, Echols, Joppy, etc on Hop's MW resume, which says a lot.

Both of these fighters were natural at lighter weights. The Tito fight was the only one that I can give any credit to, as he'd proven himself there, whereas Oscar was just **** as a MW.

He won both fights....

He was no legend killer, regardless of what he branded himself as. If I called myself the best fighter in the world do I then become a top ranked fighter? It was a dominant win against a limited, weight drained fighter, but a dominant win nonetheless for a fighter of Hopkins's age makes for a good win.

Most of us did. And it wasn't a wide Decision either, once again against a smaller fighter.

I thought he won pretty handily.

This fight is still basically 50/50 in my book.

 

Correction.He lost once to Taylor,the second time.Hopkins won the first fight,that was just politics to get the old man aside and put the HBO hypejob as champ

 

Guzman fight weighing more than most welter weights. The size difference is moderate but the skill difference is huge in Guzman's favour. He would be the clear favorite were they to meet at 160.

 

You have a medical condition that defies the label "******ed".

 

You really think that?


...... really?? :shock:

 

Sam Langford was 5"7 and went up against HWs. Now the modern era is stronger, so HW is unrealistic for Guzman. However 160, he would still be an elite fighter. Think how his reflexes would be up against the bigger slower fighters. He'd be nigh on impossible to hit cleanly. Not that is would matter with Joan's iron chin.

 

About the Johnson win:

Well put. Glen hadn't beaten any top 15 fighters if I recall.

Further, he had a very limited amateur background, and was really a part-time boxer / construction worker until a year before he fought Hopkins.

 

SAM freaking LANGFORD!?!?

That's almost a century ago! The sport was nothing like it is today. Besides, most of the HW's Langford fought were unknown Mexicans (Mexican heavyweights?? ) with losing records.

This is not like Mayweather vs Valuev in terms of speed difference and reflexes. Hopkins, even now, would have no problem tagging Guzman with enough clean shots to put him away.

Why do you think Guzman ISN'T challenging at MW? If it were that easy, or even possible, why don't more 130lb fighters challenge MW's? It would generate interest (and cash) if they managed to win.

 

You saved me some typing.

I rate his win over Johnson a little more highly than you do, and I believe Calzaghe beat him decisively.

I'm in complete agreement with the rest of the analysis.

However, I am picking Bernard to pull off the upset here.