Every time I watch GGG Brook I laugh my a off

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  1. liger1992

    liger1992 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    When does GGG ever move his head?

    I'm not buying the GGG didn't care. Brook showed good shot selection and good timing to land on GGG.

    Brook has skills and his punch success was down to him and nothing to do with GGG
     
  2. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    Why?

    You're talking as though Golovkin is the first middleweight champion in history to fight a top tier welterweight moving up.
     
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  3. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    Or the joke is Froch getting put down and dominated only to luck out in the last round against Taylor.

    Froch isn't great.
     
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  4. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    When was the last time an unproven 147 pound holder of an ABC trinket belt moved straight to 160 to face an elite P4P middleweight powerhouse? Surely you're not comparing this situation to Hagler-Leonard?
     
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  5. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Froch might not be an ATG in the elite of the elite sense, but he was a great fighter. Not many guys accomplish anything close to what Froch did between 2008 and his retirement. It was a helluva run.
     
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  6. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Brook is/was an enormous Welterweight. Kind of like Margarito an actual natural Light Middleweight who drained down to 147 and beat on smaller men.

    Not very many bigger Welterweights than Brook. Maybe guys like Clottey, Trinidad, Hearns. But Brook was a huge 147.
     
  7. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    No and at no point did I, but who said Brook is unproven? He's just as proven as Thurman and certainly more proven than Spence.
     
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  8. Odins beard

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    True but Frochs greatness was based on him being an overachiever.
     
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  9. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Brook was never ever at any point universally recognized as the man at 147. He had one decent win, and...

    How was he not unproven? And what do Spence and Thurman have to do with this? Is Golovkin targeting them next? If so, it's just as sad as him fighting Brook. I get it - the money, Golovkin doesn't have the type of demand, so he's being ducked. But an unproven welterweight?

    Again - that fight was unbecoming of someone with Golovkin's immense level of talent.

    So when was the last time an unproven welterweight commodity jumped straight to 160 to face a P4P middleweight powerhouse?
     
  10. critix

    critix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    don't forget brook acting like he isn't getting hurt, like mate you have a broken eye socket from a jab sit down
     
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  11. lencoreastside

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    GGG is not a big middleweight....and brook is bigger than many us welterweights that moved up to challenge at 160...guys like Carmen basilio and Rocky graziano.

    I think a lot of the sour grapes stems from the fact that both brook and GGG are not Americans.
     
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  12. Odins beard

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    Marlon Starling v Michael Nunn.....
     
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  13. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Kell Brook to his trainer "Bruh, why you stop the fight?". His trainer "So you don't die".
     
  14. Flamazide

    Flamazide Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Brook is too brave for his own good. That whole time I was watching that post fight intervuew I thinking, "Stop asking him questions and let this man go to a hospital," respect to Brook for taking that fight and fighting the way he did.

    Golovkin actually has good defense when he respects your power. Look at how he fought Lemeiux. He got hit about 10 times in that entire fight. If Golovkin doesn't want you to land a punch, you simply won't. He LET Brook tee off like that in the second round.

    And as far as Brook's counters... when you fight at smaller weight class you not only move faster, but you're used to fighting guys that ALSO move fast so you're counters against the bigger man are going to be easier since you're already faster and you're conditioned to timing guys with superior speed. You would learn this if you actually trained at any point or even watched people spar at a gym since this is quite a common situation.
     
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  15. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think that the Brook people put out feelers for the fight with GGG. It was like a birds nest on the ground for the GGG people so they swooped on it. While I admit that they could have took the higher ground and passed on the deal but easy money prevailed. You referred to Brook as a mediocre trinket holder, are those your true thoughts on Brook? Just curious.
     
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