Everybody seems to be back on the Whyte Hype train.....

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  1. zulander

    zulander Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I do think Wilder is favorite over Whyte. Wilder's style is ugly but he's landed a bomb on everyone he's faced and only Fury has been able to put him over. His chin and fitness are good even if he lacks fundamentals. Whyte doesn't have the chin or defense to stop Wilder landing and i'm not sure he would be as confident working his way in like Fury was in fight 2.

    Wilder i expect will go back to the drawing board and fight someone like (i was going to say Molina but he's already struggled with him!) but its going to be a fairly low ranked opponent. I wouldn't even expect him to go near a Wallin or a Kowanicki at this point. Plus he's 35 after a 42 fight career where he's been hurt more than once. He might not have much time left at the top but I would like to see him fight again just to see where he's at.

    Whyte is world class - just about. He's won the British title, beaten a former belt Euro belt holder in Chisora, Unbeaten danger man in Rivas and a former world titlist in Parker who a fight before was considered a good match for current World Champ Joshua. He''s got a fight ending left hook and he comes to fight but he has some glaring weakness that will probably mean he won't ever win a world title. He's been in a lot of close fights and he should have lost to Del Boy first time around I think but even so he's a good fighter near the top of the division.
     
  2. Twentyman

    Twentyman John Fury’s nut sack.... Full Member

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    "I'm long overdue a massive fight. It's frustrating that Fury has been ducking me after Wilder ducked me for years".

    This is what I wasn't looking forward to, Dillian Whyte spouting rubbish every other day via the medium of Sky. Fury fought Wilder in February...the global pandemic then hit. In the meantime Whyte took a fight with Povetkin last summer and got chinned. The rematch was delayed a couple of times and finally happened the other week....so how has Fury ducked him????
     
  3. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fury said he would fight Whyte in video stating that he thinks Whyte is an underrated fighter. Whyte responds on social media to effect of "lets do it", Fury a week later says he has no interest in fighting Whyte as he is a bum and then went onto to fight Shwarz or Wallin I think.
     
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  4. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    On Wilder, he's 35, was badly exposed on his last outing and not all that convincing in the second Ortiz fight prior to the KO. Are we sure that he comes back as the fighter he was? Both Ortiz and Fury outboxed him, but in the second fight Fury ragdolled and bullied him which is going to take its toll both on him and the aura that he'd built around him.

    There has to be a question whether we even see 'prime' Wilder in the ring again.
     
  5. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I am sure if Whyte was to beat Wilder the narrative would be that Wilder was spent mentally from the Fury fight and Ehyte wouldnt get credit for the wi . My personal opinion was that he was a limited fighter prior and was finally exposed when he stpped up to world level rather than cherry picked soft opponents (Fury was a cherry pick that went wrong).

    Then again how much longer has Wilder got left and will he just go back fighter soft opponents before retiring?
     
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  6. roddy

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    Wilder would knock Whyte into next week IMO.
     
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  7. Twentyman

    Twentyman John Fury’s nut sack.... Full Member

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    Fury has only been champion since the second fight with Wilder. Anything before that he didn't have a title to defend against Whyte. It was all about Wilder until Fury beat him.

    He's a proper whinge. His non stop hard done by narrative he constantly spins is very off putting.
     
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  8. UKboxingfan

    UKboxingfan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I remember posting on here before that Wilder to KO Whyte would be printing money.

    Difference now is you have no idea how that Fury fight will have changed Wilder if he does step in the ring again, he’d be pushing 36 years old and out the ring for 18 months or so if it did end up happening soon.
     
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  9. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    It does make me laugh how much people **** on Wilder after Fury done his demolition job.....

    At the end of the day he's still the most dangerous and powerful man in the division and can knock anyone out on his day.

    That said.... he's made himself look an absolute ****ing tool since the Fury defeat. Talk about making excuses.
     
  10. Furious

    Furious Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Exactly. Beating Wilder as Fury did was just a fantastic gameplay executed perfectly. People underestimate how difficult that would've been to pull off. There's an awful lot of people after timing about it - now thinking anyone half decent would beat Wilder. They may do, post Fury, but who knows.

    I am not sure anyone else bar Fury could've pulled off that game plan. Usyk perhaps, but he doesn't have the same size or strength.
     
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  11. UKboxingfan

    UKboxingfan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    All very true. As I just posted though it’s hard to know what Wilder you’d get, can’t underestimate how much a tough fight can affect you at that age.
     
  12. EJC83

    EJC83 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You can never read much into anything that Wilder, Whyte and Fury say, they change their opinions like the wind, Fury is the absolute king of contradiction, anyone who runs their mouth that often with such speed will contradict themselves!

    I can't see Wilder v Whyte happening anytime soon, Wilder will want a fairly easy first fight back and then either a title shot or a huge payday, I don't think Whyte will be able to offer either of those.
     
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  13. Brixton Bomber

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    Typical Tyson.

    More or a talking man than a fighting man.
     
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  14. Unforgiven

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    Whyte's probably lying though.
    He demands PPV money to fight lesser opponents than Wilder, and can even get rematch clauses and PPV rematches fighting worn-out old men under the Matchroom banner, so I'm sure his "price" to face Wilder in America would be ridiculous.
     
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  15. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well Whyte already agreed to fight tougher opponents than Wilder in Parker and two offers to Ruiz which Ruiz turned down. So I can't see whyte being the one avoiding this fight, especially when MR years ago made an offer for this fight to happen (offered Wilder Chisora too) to which Wilders team turned down.