Everybody seems to be back on the Whyte Hype train.....

Fury always looks bad in the soft match up's too. When he has had to find a gear (Wlad and Wilder) he found one. Parker has a win vs Ruiz that has aged partulcarly well. The fact is though if he fought Ruiz after the AJ win then he'd have found a way to lose that fight too. I don't think Parker was that hard done by in the Whyte fight either. Yes it was rough and one of the KD's shouldnt have counted, but Whyte wanted it way more and was ahead going in to the later rounds.

 

I don't understand why you rate Parker so low yet Wallin so highly? Wallin's best wins is beating a usless Breazeale and going the distance with a guy Dimitrenko KO'ed in a round. Wallin looked lethargic against a useless journeyman in Kauffman. Parker who argubably has the quickest hands and toughest chin in the divison and who ha beaten the like of Ruiz, Hughie, Takam, Fa and Dimitrenko. First of only two people to go the distance with AJ. Although whyte was the derseved victor of the fight, had the fight go one more round I think Parker would have stopped him.

 

Parker looked incredibly dull and lethargic against Cojanu and Hughie Fury.
Cojanu, FFS.
Not sure why you mention Fa, Parker looked bad there too.

Give Wallin a chance.

 

He's a Fury fanboy that's why. All the Fury fans rate Wallin to deflect from a poor Fury performance.

Wallin carries no power and will never be a top 10 HW. He is European Level max and will be the next Carlos Takam. Even Dereck Chisora would beat him.

 

You got it wrong

I dont rate either very highly

Wallin is going to be a top 15 guy who may get another shot down the line

So I rate him as decent, nothing more

Parker is possibly the most overrated HW out there
Since winning a close points contest that could have gone either way, he has looked absolutely awful in every fight bar the Whyte one
And even in that he had a few good rounds whilst Whyte was knackered

 

Whos a Fury fan boy?

Me? Dont be daft

I give AJ plenty credit too so check my history before making assumptions about me

 

i don't see why people want to fault Otto Wallin. Only to denigrate Fury i guess.
Wallin doesn't have power but he's not put a foot wrong really. We don't know his level yet really. Gave Fury is tough fight, which is more than Wilder managed a few months later. Easily beat Breazeale, which isn't saying much at all, but shows he's not a complete bum. He seems clever enough, a southpaw, decent skills.

Usyk hasn't shown anything more at professional heavyweight than Wallin has, to put it into perspective.
Yes, we known Usyk's quality from his amateur and cruiserweight career, but in the pros in the top division he's done no more than Wallin.

 

I think Fury went into that Wallin fight with absolutely no respect for the potential danger in front of him. I believe he was suppose to be another Schwarz in their minds. That's obviously Fury's fault for not having the right mindset because when Wallin turned up for a fight and cut Fury, he had to knuckle down and grind out the win.

If people remember right, that fight led to Fury ditching his trainer because of concerns regarding his weight being so low to carry enough power. Hence him going to a new trainer and turning up to his next fight about 20ib heavier. I think this is why we should look beyond names on a resume and consider the context of the time. Ie. Eubank Jn has big wins over Degale, Abraham and Korobov that look impressive but not quite so when you consider that all 3 were long past their best.

 

I'm certainly not on it.

I really hope they make the Ruiz Jr or Wilder fight, this can all end and Whyte can be the new David Price.

Never won a European or World title and he can be wheeled out for Eddie PPV events, maybe he can be an opponent for Dave Allen when the Doncaster DipS*** makes his comeback.

 

And look who The Deluxe Pudding is talking about as his next opponent on the main ESB page - Trevor Bryan !!
It's all been a conjob, keep collecting those sacks of PPV loot, talk smack post fight and on social media but avoid the real challenges. If the Bryan fight is signed that will be a new low for PPV in the UK.

 

I suspect if Whyte wasn't with matchroom he might be liked more - less of the PPV nonsense & fight anyone bull****.
But unfortunately without matchroom he'd probably also be less successful.

 

Sorry but in all my time posting here I don't think there has been a post I have read and disagreed with more.

You think Dillian Whyte, who swings and ends up so badly off balance that he nearly falls flat on his face multiple times in a fight against a legless 41 year old beats Hrgovic?

Hrgovic is top drawer, 28 years old, former gold medalist, 6'7, very well schooled boxer who can seriously bang..he would make Dillian look silly. He'd take him out pretty much any time he wanted to. Joe Joyce would demolish him in 5-6 rounds max. Ruiz hand speed would be too much for him too, Dillian hasn't go the feet or agility to evade it, and doesn't have the chin to hold up to Ruiz combination punching. I don't see any of those three fights as being 50-50.

Him beating Fury is just bizarre, it can't be based on anything we have seen of either of them in the ring.

Dillian has done very well for himself financially, no question about that. But he's a fringe Euro level fighter who whilst having put in some decent performances along the way has had a huge amount of luck, been very well managed, and has had every conceivable advantage 100% in his favor- referee's (Parker), judges (Chisora 1), drug tests (Rivas) questionable matchmaking (Povetkin 2).

 

Your reply is spot on, and your username is a hero of mine

 

How can Whyte be fringe Euron level when he has best and deepest resume after AJ in the divison? Povetkin, Parker, Rivas, Chisora x 2, Helenius and Wach. Whyte is clearly a wirld level fighter at the very least going on his resume and peformances.

Povetkin - proved he was still dagerous fighter in his peformances against Whyte, Hughie and Hunter.


Chisora - I had Whyte winning by several points, but the judges called it closer than it was due to Chisora being the crowd favourite. Whyte had him to KO in the second fight as he would of been robbed by the judges in the second fight looking at the scorecards.

Rivas - won comfortably in points. Cleared of any wrong doing and the WBC wrongly gave his mandatory to Fury who stated he he didnt want the mandatory as it was poitnless as he was already contracted to fight Wilder.

Parker - even ignoring the headbutt i thought Whyte was the derseved winner. Had it gone a extea round though Parker would have stopped him and I would back Parker in a rematch.

Potential fight vs Hrgovic I said was 50/50. Hrgovic is the more skilled well rounded and technically better fighter however we havent seen him in against a quality opponent at pro. Hrgovic does stand too upright and times and leaves his chin out too much and if does that against Whyte I think he would pay the price.