Everyone on here is bagging out GSP for a boring main event..

The fact that Shields has wins over his past opponents is irrelevant to the GSP fight. The fact that those opponents who lost, could not finish him, has nothing to do with the GSP-Shields fight. They couldn't finish him? Really? Tell us something we don't know - Of course, they lost, I would expect Shields to not have been ko'd if he was able to win.

Here is the difference and why its irrelevant to the GSP fight. The way that Shields won these fights was not by his great standup skills, but rather his BJJ. Shields attempted to take GSP down and it didnt work. So he resorted to trying to stand up with GSP, since he had no choice; this is where Shields was most vulnerable, because if you notice, he looked like a amateur, straight from the crowd, thrown in an MMA fight. He was squaring up, chin up high, going straight back when GSP would attack and slow as hell. This presented the opportunity for GSP to break him down over the course of 5 long rounds. GSP's answer was wild overhand rights, which I've never really seen him thrown, I wonder who taught him that one? GSP had the longer reach, was the stronger and faster guy in there. What happened was that GSP froze mentally. With his eye being busted up, things did not go according to plan and he didn't really know what to do.

 

The overhand rights were designed to catch Shields when he moves backwards with his chin out and his left hand down. Its the same type of punch that saw Henderson nearly destroy him. Shields did a better job of keeping his left hand up and so stopped that.

It was however beginning to work as Shields tired and his discipline faltered. But the eyepoke slowed St. Pierre down to a pace that Shields could just about survived at.

 

Those overhands were totally out of charactor, has GSP stated that Will because it's been puzzling me. And people say GSP wasnt tryna finish the fight....

 

You don't like watching him fight then don't watch but you have to respect him as he dominated against the second best WW in the world

 

That's been my point all along Zarman. Criticism is fine and maybe warranted. But the lack of respect is disgraceful

 

It was really strange watching him throw them. He was totally off balance more than once because he was bowling that thing through. Definitely not something I'm used to from GSP

 

gsp should have tryed out some combos when he had the chance against shield who isnt really mike tyson

 

Well one thing you can say bout GSP when he throws combos its more than a simple 1-2,

 

Are you trying to tell me Jake is npt am ATG black HW boxer?

 

Really? The level of competition has no bearing on whether you expect someone to finish a fight or not? Really? So if GSP didn't finish Fedor vs Jason Reinhardt, it wouldn't really matter? You'd expect him to finish them with the same probability? You're confusing something being REDUNDANT with it being IRRELEVANT. Sheilds fighting and beating all sorts of great fighters for years is definitely relevant to whether he loses or gets finished by GSP or anyone else.

You're way over the ****ing top here. GSP is a much better stand up fighter than Sheilds, but Sheilds is sure has hell 100% NOT a "straight out of the crowd" stand up fighter. He's been effective enough with it to avoid getting cold cocked and working his way in for a takedown against top of the food chain fighters for years and years now. Sure GSP won every second of the stand up (and won it big when he had two eyes) but you're making it sound as if Sheilds was a punching bag in there. He wasn't. Also, he wasn't being very aggressive with his stand up (or anything else for that matter) so it was totally up to GSP to push that fight.

If by "things not going according to plan" you mean "losing sight in one eye" then yeah, I bet GSP didn't work for weeks with an eye patch on learning to stop his training partners just in case that happened. Take an eye out of any fighter and watch to see how it affects their fights. It is surprises you that it has a big effect then you're an idiot.

 

hey come on he made a fair point as well there is two fighters in there and you surely are not claiming that shields went guns blazing offensive in that fight now can you ?

your ramming things into boxes that you force to fit in mind because it makes you feel good to force them in

runtings im not truthfully a member

im your subconscious

 

Exactly, imagined if Shields had offered Lawler or Henderson the same courtesy. He'd be face down, arse up!

 

gsp was doing things that really were ineffective in there say what you want about sheilds striking technically it was doing pretty well against a "top striker" in Gsp.


the overhand right even when landing it wasnt landing clean on the chin and it wasnt landing often - bad gameplan. the spinning backkick was not landing gsp should have stuck to a jab righthand lowkick formula.

PS. Sheilds is a boring fighter. I mistakenly thought he would push himself to go for a takedown at all costs him being the bigger stronger guy and better on the ground but he wanst able too or could not push himself to do so.

sucks.

 

really its both their faults neither are the type to push the fight for a finish.

as you stated lawler and henderson are (though henderson used to be called "decision dan" for a reason)

 

Level of competition is irrelevant when the competition is one dimensional , especially when the fight did not take place on the ground for 5 long rounds. Facing Fedor? Stop over exaggerating in attempt to prove an irrelevant point. GSP was not facing arguably the GOAT, or was he? Shields beating great fighters? Ok, was he doing it with his excellent footwork, crisp right hands and combos. Considering Shields is so great, because he beat so many great fighters, than why was he such a heavy underdog? Don't tell me you bought into the UFC hype leading up to the fight. No one gave Shields a legitimate chance because of how he matched up against GSP. GSP has had better competition, is more well rounded, 10x better standing (or so we thought), more athletic, the list goes on. Considering that GSP is that much better than Shields on standup, it would not be unreasonable to expect GSP to finish him, or at least put forth the effort, having vision problems on one eye or not, because he is facing Shields after all and GSP is just that much better. Was Shields really that dangerous? No, GSP just sort of freaked because he was having issues with that one eye.

Duh, no one trains for such unexpected things, including head butts, broken noses, torn biceps, etc. that's why they are referred to as unexpected. Thats what sets great champions apart, they don't freak and find a way around it. GSP is still great, but he will not have that luxery of coasting against a better fighter.