Everyone take a deep breath: AJ just KO'd a novice with an 0-1 record

Definitely not talking about the Wilder fight jist alluding to excuses in general. Fury wasnt prepared: How do you know that to be truth? How do you assign that for him but not take other excuses at face value? Every fighter is a different version of themselves on fight night, what version they present isnt our problem, its theirs. Once you start handing out passes and excuses you gotta do it for everyone otherwise it starts to look like something else.

 

Okay... We can play that game if you like...

There are two possibilities:
1) Fury was prepared for Ngannou - he struggled because he's not very good.
Or.
2) Fury was unfit and underprepared for Ngannou - that's why he struggled.

If #1, then AJ would wipe the floor with Fury and Fury has no business fighting Usyk who will win a very wide UD.

If #2 then when Fury is properly fit and prepared he might be competitive with Usyk or AJ.

Either way, it diminishes the value of Wilder on Fury's resume.

When you can see he's physically fat, gassing much earlier than normal and clearly shocked by what's being thrown at him... It's not a stretch to accept he was unfit and unprepared.

It's their problem and their fault - but it still enters our analysis if we want to get a good handle on what a particular fight means.

There are implications to accepting excuses - which was kinda my point.

At the same time, it's not so much an excuse when it's clearly the case - it's an explanation.

 

While I agree it's great for boxing that Joshua sent Naganu to the dream realm, I'd still like to see Naganu fight Wilder.

Neither one of them can box a lick but both have power.

It would be fun to watch while it lasted.

 

This makes Fury look so bad

 

Yeah, Faboyism, as you call it, is 99% of the reason I want to see a fighter lose. The twisted part of me really enjoys reading all the butthurt excuses when fanboys hero's lose.

 

They jealous toward the Joshua because they have small pee pee. Pee pee envy.

 

Unfortunately the AF fan is a very small-minded creature highly susceptible to propaganda.
That's why they went from attacking Fury for avoiding Usyk (briefly) to take the circus fight to celebrating AJ dodging Wilder and others to take the same circus fight and now being in awe of AJ's achievement.

Just imagine how Hearn is laughing at the ease of running this 'brand'. He and AJ have successfully dodged all the top opponents since Usyk time and again and now people are implying AJ is somehow back to the top position or near to it.

Parker has actually done more in two fights than AJ has done FOR YEARS and those performances of Parker still weren't too convincing, points victory against a declined Wilder and getting dropped twice against a 40 year old.

 

Interesting points it makes me think would AJ have blasted Wilder out within a couple of rounds? It's possible as Wilder like Ngannou is not difficult to hit for someone like AJ.

 

Maybe.

I think he'd have gone in with more respect than he should've... Maybe he'd have sized Wilder up early, maybe not.

I think he'd have won, and I think Wilder knew it too - I'm just not clear whether he'd win on points or wait patiently for a chance to open up... Wilder's chin probably wouldn't have stood up to it if he did - not if Fury could crack it.

 

Buddy it's always for Fury, but no one else. Just see the narrative.
If Fury magically beat Usyk, even with a full corruption mode, his fanboys will be fast to claim he doesn't need to fight AJ, and all that crap.

I have no problem just waiting for them to fight and find out, but we all know why the fight hasn't happen yet, and why it will probably not happen at all. It's only Fury that waste everyone time, and essentially waste everyone time for the last 2 years.

And excuses are always and only for this fraud. When he ducked Price, they manage to find an excuse for that. Same for when he ducked Ustinov. Same when he ducked Klitschko rematch.
Then when he ducked AJ fight, to fight Wilder, when AJ was the man at the division at that time, and not just that but Fury was offered tons more money to fight AJ. Then there was the Wilder 1 fight excuse. Then there was the Wallin excuse that Fury was too light then.
Then there was Wilder 3 excuse. Let's not forget Fury delayed that rematch, by faking COVID. Then there was all kind of circus acts with AJ, and the excuse with Wilder fight once again. Then there was the deadline with AJ, and his fangirls still managed to excuse him. Then there was the Usyk saga, and Fury literally ducked that fight for good 1+ year and waste everyone time. And then there was the Ngannou excuse once again.

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He looks like that most of the time.
But it's funny how they all make excuses for him, yet Francis was out of the ring for 2 years, and was highly inactive and couldn't even train properly, as he had knee injury and then knee surgery, and never had boxed in a pro ring before. Not even knowing will his gas tank handle the rounds, or anything. He literally said it by himself.

AJ gets a lot better and improved version of Ngannou, which was confirmed already, and he shatter him in 2 rounds.

Fury fans needs to chill. AJ is coming for Fury and we will find out if Fury is as good as his fans claim, or he will duck AJ once more.

 

Kinda interesting how people have changed their tune. Before Joshua smoked him, Ngannou was a legit threat and many people picked him to KO Joshua. Now he got beat down so badly he’s a bum. This obviously comes from the Fury fans attempting to discredit Joshua but the funny thing is this bum dropped Fury and gave him hell in a narrow err…. defeat (he probably beat him). Now we get the didn’t train or take him seriously excuses. This really has made Fury look terrible to the extent that his fans now feel the need to justify why he looked so bad and rationalise it to this extent.

 

Some of us said that Ngannou wasn't anything special as a boxer to begin with and that Fury was going to mess up by not training. Some of us said that AJ would not make that mistake and smoke Ngannou like a cheap joint.

* low bow * You're welcome.

I'll give Ngannou his props: he looks three times better than he looked in the UFC insofar as his boxing skills go. But its still not good enough to hang with a top dog that's taking it seriously.

 

Very well said my friend.

 

I'm not even going to try and pretend I understand this logic. The Wilder fight has zero connection to either NGannou fight aside from sharing Fury as an opponent. The excuses though? I don't know you but I can almost guarantee you were here fighting tooth and nail against Wilders excuses, which I may add I thought ranged from curious to ridiculous. But if you're going to give Fury excuses he himself didn't even make, that's odd.

 

Yeah they also miraculously can't remember his ped case while talking trash about any other fighter. It's weird as hell.