Everyone talks about what Vitali could have done.. why not talk about Ike Ibeabuchi?

im talkin about vitali's brother..vitali is/was considered the better fighter....every loss wlad has had..vitali beat the snot out of them minus brewster...

Wlad just has the more "textbook" style....Vitali fights akward but is more effective...so sometimes it LOOKS like wlad is the better fighter.

oh...and Vitali was winning the byrd fight until he got injured...u cannot even use that fight as a legit byrd win when he was getting dominated on the scorecards.....

Byrd was outboxing Ike before he got caught....Wlad completely shut byrd out...i dont think Byrd has ever won a round against wlad period.....

 

My point exactly.

 

Who cares what the ****** nutball could've done?

 

Vitali may be tougher and has an awkward effectiveness about him, but his resume and accomplishments are far from impressive when you look at the credit he's often given. He beat a bunch of fringe contenders and a couple of fat contenders, and LOST to the top heavyweights he fought, but is given credit because he "fought well before he lost".

For one, Ike-Byrd was close until the KO.

Second, we're not even talking about Wlad.

 

Ike could have been a champ...probably the undisputed champion in this era. He beat Tua in a close fight and KO'd Byrd...good resume and ashame he was such a nutcase. But he's where he deserves to be now.

 

I probably shouldn't have used the word "easy", but Ike was never in any kind of big trouble during the fight and I thought although it was pretty close, Ike clearly won. His performance was unbelievable considering that for a few years he fought absolute bums, then he suddenly stepped up and fought a Tua that threw 1000 punches toe to toe and made it look easy. The guy who said that having a close fight with Tua says something about Ike's technical abilities. No, it says something about the way he chose to fight him. He could have kept jabbing him and not going inside, but he was more comfortable going toe to toe with him, amazingly. And I don't even need to mention that Ike was still young and learning on the job during that fight, even though he looked completely relaxed and focused.

Typical dellusional Vitali fan. You use anything to make Vitali look better and use anything to discredit a fighter who did something better than he did. Stepping up and KO'ing Byrd in the 5th round after previously not having any experience against any good defensive fighters is way more impressive than having extensive experience at the amateur/pro level and beating him over 9 rounds, then quitting, or beating him over 12 rounds and knocking him out in 7 past his prime, especially when style-wise, it's easier for Wlad/Vitali to beat Byrd than it is for Ike. Plus, what the hell does Vitali have to do with Wlad anyways? If Ike was Mike Tyson's brother, would Tyson's accomplishments relate in any way to Ike as a fighter?


Most of you are missing my point. This shouldn't be a discussion about how good Vitali or Ike were. I simply wanted to say that it's meaningless to go and hype a fighter and spin him as something great when he didn't accomplish a whole lot in his career. People realize this, so they don't keep talking about fighters like Ike, but Klitschko fans continue to praise Vitali any chance they get and hype him to make his career and legacy seem much better than it actually was. There are no other fans that are more guilty of this than Vitali fans. I guess my point is simpler than I thought. Vitali fans are dellusional and annoying. I'm sure that point has never been made. End of thread.