Everything Wrong With Andre Berto.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by FloydPatterson, Nov 24, 2012.


  1. r1p00pk

    r1p00pk Well-Known Member Full Member

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    quality posts from a quality poster, rare species in this forum :deal
     
  2. Chappy112

    Chappy112 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    His physique is all wrong for a boxer IMO. He's got too much muscle up top and I think that's why he has stamina issues, he focuses on the wrong conditioning, just my opinion of course.
     
  3. Arcane

    Arcane One More Time Full Member

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    Bogo is probably one of the best posters on the general forum and could write a book on the fight and i'd still read it, you on the other hand are just another dime a dozen nobody with your bull**** 'his chin is china' anlaysis. How about in the future you just STFU the next time you get an urge to **** on posters who can actually offer an insightful technical breakdown of a fight.
     
  4. LancsTerrible

    LancsTerrible Different Forms of Game. Full Member

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    :deal:lol::rofl:patsch
     
  5. Chappy112

    Chappy112 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bogo is by far my favourite poster on here. :good
     
  6. Absolutely!

    Absolutely! Fabulous, darling! Full Member

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    I've thought about it, and it makes no sense.

    Having the speed to land punches and having the reflexes, stylistic ability and mental focus to avoid shots yourself are two different things. One is a physical trait, the other is more a skill/focus based trait.
     
  7. KERRIGAN

    KERRIGAN Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Put Berto in with Keith Thurman at 147.
     
  8. Absolutely!

    Absolutely! Fabulous, darling! Full Member

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    Don't know if that was just a light hearted jab, or if you were being serious, but if you honestly think that post was an essay, then I suggest you read or at least skimread a few actual essays.

    Eastside already has a dearth of quality posters. If you don't have the interest or mental stamina to read through a post that's more than just a simplistic two line comment then either don't read the post, or put the user on your ignore list so you no longer have to be exposed to his more than 2-bit opinions.
     
  9. Collie

    Collie Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :deal
     
  10. Absolutely!

    Absolutely! Fabulous, darling! Full Member

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    A fighter like Berto is built for short burst explosiveness. Mentally and physically he has to put everything into his shots. He's like Jermain Taylor or Pascal or Haye. All those guys, I'd wager, would make good sprinters, but atrocious long distance runners. Guerrero on the other hand is built more for endurance, long and lean and able to mete his energy out over the course of a fight.

    Establishing more of a rhythm to his work might improve Berto to a degree, but I think he'll always have the same problems. He also needs to realise that he's just not a good inside fighter and either work like mad on improving that area of his game, or work like mad to avoid getting on the inside in the first place. As it stands, he's too easily pushed back, too easily moved around, and not dirty enough or active enough to get the better of exchanges when he doesn't have full freedom of space to get his power shots off.
     
  11. benebox

    benebox Active Member Full Member

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    If you are a boxer with a weak chin surely you can come up with a better game plan than "if he wants to bang, we'll bang".
     
  12. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Ortiz and Berto

    Both suck.

    Top heavy hard hitting wannabe boxers. Berto does have some nice speed though...
     
  13. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    I don't think Berto knew Guerrero was gonna get a pass for all those illegal tactics.
    He was far too confident in the ref to keep it clean. He's climbed so high in the game, I think he half expected the ref to be in his pocket, and at the very least, neutral.
    In the first rd, when Guerrero landed that sweet L hand, then Berto began to retreat, Guerrero was literally holding Berto's face in place while banging away at it. The KD in the second resulted under eerily similar circumstances, and Berto surely was thinking he was gonna get bailed out by the ref.

    He's definitely got a feeling of entitlement in there. IDK if it's GBP fault, his corners, or just something built in, but he's gotta realize, that from the first minute of that fight, he was gonna be allowed to be fouled repeatedly. It's completely up to him and his corner to change their game when something like that is gonna occur.

    It was obvious to me, that GBP was grooming this fight to be an eliminator for Roid. I couldnt tell if they're courting Berto for it or Guerrero, but Robbie sure got the best of an absentee ref last night.

    Berto has to better prepare for being cash out like that.:-(
     
  14. irishny

    irishny Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Rematches with Guerrero and Ortiz would be great.

    At least he has some ready made matches!
     
  15. brown-bomber

    brown-bomber Member Full Member

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    Robert Guerrero CLEANING up the sport.
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToQ0n3itoII[/ame]