Evidence against Pacquaio cheating

JMM is Pac's kryptonite. Pac is tailor made for JMM. A bigger version JMM beats those other guys as well.

 

It works both ways. The only ones who are willing to accept Manny's excuses and not contemplate foul play even for a second are those who love the guy. I understand, if it was Marco I'd be saying the same thing you are right now but don't act surprised that some of us aren't willing to accept the weak excuses, especially considering it's coming from the king of excuses. You have to see it from other people's perspective too. A lot of us aren't even in those camps, we're in the, "Pacquiao may be innocent, but his refusal to prove it is suspicious". I think that's perfectly logical thinking.

 

Marquez actually has the skills and the guile to fight off that type of aggression.......

......but its just the manner in which Pacquiao the smaller fighter disposed of both Hatton and Cotto, naturally much bigger fighters, that makes one wonder.

.....and if that was'nt enough, the weak embarrassing excuses Pacquiao gave for not wanting the testing 14 days out.:-(

 

WOW!

Shame on you brother......

If it were JMM, I'd likely just take a leave of absence from the forum, but I'd definitely would'nt be defending a fighter who did'nt want to prove he was fighting clean.

 

What can I say, I'm with Marco through thick and thin. It's why I skim most of your posts for you to discredit him...so I can hit back. :good

 

What would the testing prove, here is one scenario: if pac tested negative and then lose to PBF, many people will say, specially the narrow minded ones "Hey, see what I'm saying? Pac can't beat him without the roids!" This is because they already had it in their minds that Pac is a cheat even if the man is innocent.

 

:roflI know you have, why do you think I have'nt been as loose on the trigger when it comes to my opinions of MAB lately???

Usually I would have deliberately been seeking when you post on MAB to shoot you down, but I have great respect for persons who genuinely love the sport and study it the way you do........
Loved how you've brought out threads from fighters of the past that people have forgotten about.....the Orlando Canizales thread for example.

Keep up that good work, but dont get so mad if on occassion I have to take my pistol out on the other side of the argument against MAB.

 

Which is why Pac should have accepted the tests from the beggining without fanfare.

When negotiations were first taking place, each side wrote down prerequisites for the fight to occur.
Mayweather's demand for the testing was there all along and the Pac team never said they were against it.

We the public did'nt know that Mayweather had requested the random testing, the only reason we found out was because it became an issue when Pac refused and wanted the random testing thrown out.

The Pac team through the whole negotiations knew that random drug testing was put on the table by Mayweather, but he did'nt make a big deal about (probably hoping it would be thrown out through some kind of concession that Pac would make on his side as well, like the weight issue)

Had Pac just not made an issue of it and accepted it from the beggining, the scenario you depict with Pac losing to Mayweather and people saying, "you see, he did'nt take his PED's and you see what happened."....would not have occured.

.......unfortunately now, Pac has dug his own grave, and he'll have to live with that stigma.

 

:good Sound.

Boxing is certainly my passion, and I aim to learn more and more about it's history by the day. Orlando Canizales, in particular, represents the sort of technique and combination punching that I find most pleasing to the eye. He was about as humble as a fighter could possibly be, and I think if anyone in the General were to sit down and watch his second fight with Seabrooks, they'd all appreciate him every bit as much as I do. It's a little disappointing that he hasn't acquired the sort of admiration that his talent warrants.

I appreciate that you recognize I'm not just here to spread Marco Antonio Barrera propaganda. :good I've noticed you don't beat on Marco as much as you used too, but the one handed fighter comment really pissed me off.

 

But don't you think it might be the Mayweathers' plan all along, to push Pac to agree to it as if Pac was an admitted user and further let the public doubt about his accomplishment in the event he loses? You can't erase the doubt of other people even if Pac proves it to them that he's clean because like what I'm saying before, there are already a lot of people who believes that pac's a roid user.

I honestly think that the only way to clean his own name is for him to win the fight & test negative, or else I hate to say this, a lot of people will still think he uses roids in the past because he lost. I feel sorry for Pac, he's already been judged thanks to the Mayweather Sr and others.

 

Dude. He's been judged because he bowed out of an opportunity to prove his innocence because of trivial reasons. I don't even buy the weakness excuse. Did he look weak during round 12 of his brutal war with Morales in 2005? It was arguably his best round, and he looked very strong still. I don't know what to believe, I tend to think Manny is too nice to knowingly take PED's, but I don't feel sorry for him? Why should I? ...His destiny is in his own hands.

 

According to Teddy Atlas's inside source, and I am paraphrasing, someone from Pacquiao's camp sent a couple of emails to Mayweather's camp asking what would be the penalty if Pacquiao tested positive for PEDS. The second email stated, if Pacquiao did test positive for PEDS, could we (Pacquiao and Mayweather's camp) keep this a secret for the benefit of boxing?


Source: ESPN Friday Night Fights January 8, 2010


Now I will wait for some ******* to accuse Teddy Atlas of lying. :roll:

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Hey, when comparing MAB with Marquez and Morales, he does tend to favor throwing his left more, and his right hand does'nt have the same pop that the other two have........but C'mon bro, sometimes one has to exaggerate it just a little for effect.

 

The "I believe..." ruins it.

 

What is ******ed is you believing Teddy Atlas would put his exemplary reputation on the line for a baseless story. A person of Atlas's stature wouldn't do so if his source wasn't credible.