exactly how big was naito vs kameda in japan?

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  1. Mistadobalina

    Mistadobalina Member Full Member

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    i only ask because for the last 2 days i've always seen video footage of their fight on the front page of youtube's "videos being watched right now". obviously it didn't get much noise over here, but the fight along with tv interviews with naito have gotten a lot of hits. i tried reading the comments on youtube but all i saw for the most part was a bunch of "???? ??? ????" which i assume is japanese text just not encoded for my browser. it was one hell of a dirty fight, but fun to say the least, the crowd was pumped.

    so can someone who follows the sport in that region fill me in?

    what was the drama between the two?

    what did naito say in the post fight interview? was he talking ****? it seemed the crowd responded like mad men to his comments.
     
  2. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    a poster from boxrec has this article but did not specify the link. i hope this helps...



    Disgraced Japanese boxer Daiki Kameda could face a ban for violent behaviour during his defeat by Daisuke Naito in a world title fight earlier this week.
    Naito retained his WBC flyweight belt on Thursday with a unanimous decision over the 18-year-old Kameda, who was docked three points after his patience snapped in the 12th round.

    Kameda, sporting golden gloves to match his dyed hair, was docked a point for punching Naito while both men wrestled on the canvas.

    He was then penalised a further two points for picking up Naito and slamming him down, triggering howls of derision from a Tokyo crowd squarely behind Naito.

    Daiki, younger brother of bad boy Japanese fighter Koki, a former light flyweight world champion, could now face suspension, along with his father and coach Shiro.

    "The last round was astonishing," Japan Boxing Commission (JBC) general secretary Tsuyoshi Yasukochi told reporters. "We need to examine how this will impact on (Kameda's) career."

    Shiro Kameda, who was already walking a tightrope with the JBC over past misdemeanours, could now have his license suspended for abusing the match referee.

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    To make matters worse for the controversial boxing family, television microphones picked up Koki, who was in Daiki's corner, telling his younger brother to elbow Naito in the eye.

    Naito suffered a cut above his right eye early in the fight and the 33-year-old champion was only allowed to continue after a doctor checked the wound in the seventh round.

    Shiro Kameda rejected suggestions that there was any malice on the part of his son.

    "There was no intention to break the rules," he said in a statement issued by his Kyoei Gym.

    "It was simply Daiki's youth and lack of maturity. I should have done more to control him."

    Trouble has flared at past fights involving the Kameda brothers and security was beefed up for Thursday's fight in Tokyo.

    Daiki, who had dismissed Naito as a "cockroach" in the fight's build-up, entered the ring dressed as an ancient Japanese warrior monk, glaring at jeering fans and spitting on the floor.

    The crowd booed Kameda from the start and shouted abuse at him as he climbed out of the ring and trudged back to the changing rooms after losing the verdict by a wide margin
     
  3. unclepaulie

    unclepaulie Run like an antelope! Full Member

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    velly velly big, rike a godzirra...
     
  4. Mistadobalina

    Mistadobalina Member Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  5. Antwuan Maxx

    Antwuan Maxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
     
  6. knockout

    knockout Make my day Full Member

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  7. knockout

    knockout Make my day Full Member

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    those two didnt even throw kicks.:rofl
     
  8. lyraus

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    It's a huge sports story. Four days later and it's still the leading story on all the major networks 5 o'clock news. It has literally been one of the biggest NEWS stories in Japan over the weekend. How it will effect Japanese boxing overall is hard to say, but Naito has become a sort of overnight star thanks to him beating the "hated" little Kameda brother, and a possible fight between Naito and Koki could possibly be the biggest fight in Japanese boxing history.

    Love them or hate them, the Kameda brothers get HUGE exposure in Japan, bring in TV ratings double that of K-1, and as long as Koki keeps winning, won't be going anywhere soon. There is also a third brother who is training for the Beijing Olympics. From what I've heard, he's supposedly the most talented of all three and they expect big things from him. Daiki always struck me as being less talented and FAR too raw to be challenging for a world title.
     
  9. The Whaler

    The Whaler My dog be thorough. Full Member

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    It's amazing how popular the Kameda brothers are.

    [yt]so64449iK9w[/yt]

    :lol: That's a Golota sized meltdown.
     
  10. knockout

    knockout Make my day Full Member

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    There turning it into an mma match.
     
  11. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    LOL! :D the younger kameda should pursue a career in MMA and not boxing.

    btw, the video doesn't work now if it is embeded so here is the link...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so64449iK9w
     
  12. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    The Kameda brothers are huge in Japan, but for all the wrong reasons. They're basically the ultimate heels in Japanese athletics. The way they speak and the way their father promotes them is more like a scripted pro wrestling heel than anything. They're disrespectful to everyone, including the media, in ways that people who don't speak Japanese probably can't even understand (in Japanese, there is a separate syntax for 'polite' speak, which is what you would use to speak with elders, superiors, opponents, or anyone you would normally respect, and they NEVER use the polite form of language, which is virtually unheard of; it would be like calling everyone you meet a **** or a cocksucker to their face), and they're cocky in a way that is more common elsewhere but is considered to be in poor taste in Japan. As a result, they've become public enemy #1, the people that everyone loves to hate. Let's just put it this way - Japanese are very xenophobic, yet when Koki fought Landaeta, most of the crowd was rooting for Landaeta. Nearly half the country of 160 million tuned in for the rematch.

    Basically, most Japanese, especially older Japanese, see the Kameda brothers as the embodiment of everything that is wrong with Japanese youth today.

    In any case, the shenanigans of Daiki can only add to their mystique, and until Koki is exposed, they'll continue to be huge in Japan.
     
  13. doublesuited

    doublesuited Taylor TKO2 Pavlik Full Member

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    They're bigger than Pokemon in Japan.
     
  14. Kaino

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    TV ratings for Naito-Kameda title fight hit 32 percent in Kansai

    The average TV ratings for the live broadcast of a WBC flyweight title fight between Daisuke Naito and Daiki Kameda on Thursday night hit 32.3 percent in the Kansai area around Osaka, Video Research Ltd. said.
    The figure came to 28 percent in the Kanto area that includes Tokyo, according to the company.
    Tokyo Broadcasting System (TBS) aired the fight live on Thursday in which Naito defended his title by a unanimous decision. It was his first defense of the title he captured in July this year.

    http://mdn.mainichi.jp/sports/news/20071012p2a00m0sp012000c.html
     
  15. Kaino

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    Cutting hair short is typically a sign of atonement in Japan and the young Kameda kept his head bowed throughout the conference. He remained silent throughout its duration of several minutes.

    Daiki Kameda remained silent at the news conference held at the Japan Boxing Commission's Tokyo headquarters as his father -- who received an indefinite suspension for not restraining his 18-year-old son as he repeatedly picked up and threw Naito -- and Kanehira -- chairman of Kyoei Gym, where the Kameda clan of boxers practice -- offered a terse apology.
    "We've caused a lot of problems for people and we're terribly sorry," the elder Kameda said.