Examination: Is Floyd Mayweather Vulnerable To Southpaws?

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  1. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    I thought I remember hearing somewhere that Roger or Floyd Sr. had stated that Floyd Jr. should avoid fighting southpaws whenever possible. I'm fairly certain Emanuel Steward was the source of this reference during an HBO broadcast. Some of you may recall that Corley and Judah were able to land Pacquiao-esque power lefts on Floyd that rocked him pretty good. Freddie Roach is all over this. Yeah?
     
  2. jc

    jc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    he doesnt like a lot of pressure, he likes to control the pace so he can pick his shots better. I say this because Castillo pushed him close as did De La hoya, in fact if Oscar had more gas he couldve won.

    How he would handle a southpaw with a pressure style is hard to say but he does have a good lead and left hook which are good antidotes for a smaller southpaw, so i would expect Mayweather to beat Pac.
     
  3. FlatNose

    FlatNose Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Floyd has had a bit of difficulty against southpaws , but has always adapted by the end of the fight . That's why he's undefeated, a top pound for pounder, and a potential ATG.
     
  4. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Floyd's last 3 Soutpaw opponents:

    Demarcus Corley: Was completely dominated by Floyd. Floyd won every round, knocked Corely down multiple times, and the State athletic commisioner begged Corley's corner to stop the fight

    Sharmba Mitchell: Sharmba lost every round, hit the canvas multiple times, and was stopped on a straight shot to the body

    Zab Judah: Zab had 2 good rounds, and was competitive for the first 4 rounds. After that he was slowly broken down. Floyd had zero respect for his power, and battered Zab with left hooks and lead rights. The body shots really did a number on Zab. It was getting close to stoppage time when Zab committed a double foul and set off a riot in the 10th.
     
  5. MAG1965

    MAG1965 Loyal Member banned

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    Judah sure was a dissapointment when it came to beating the cream of the crop. Although Judah is probably good for a tuneup if someone is going to fight Pac. He has fast hands, not as fast as Pac, but it would be a good practice fight. I think Floyd can handle Pacman.
     
  6. Coogee2034

    Coogee2034 Member Full Member

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    shambra mitchel=shot as ****
    corely=never an elite but managed to rock flyod pretty hard with a straight left i think
    judah=knocked him down-glove touched the canvas but wasn't credited n was competitive for the fight
     
  7. TFFP

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    I think southpaws have had better success than orthodox fighters, offensively at least. If you look at a guy like Corley, I can't imagine he would have landed a shot like that if he was orthodox.

    Then if we consider Castillo gave him his toughest fight, it would be interesting to see him against a southpaw that puts on effective educated pressure.
     
  8. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Sharmba wasn't shot, but was past it. He was still dominated

    It was a right hook that stunned Floyd. If you watch the fight, you'll notice that Floyd was hit by that punch when he was squared up and throwing haymakers. That's something he rarely does. That was also Floyd's first fight at 140, and he went on to win that round.

    That was another right hand that did the job on that one. Judah was competitive for the first 4 rounds only. Rounds 2 and 4 were his only good rounds. He got the **** beaten out of him for the rest of the fight. That fight wasn't all that competitive.
     
  9. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Corely landed a right hook when they were both squared up. His handidness had nothing to do with it.

    Floyd went up in weight for that fight, and was at a 9 lb. disadvantage. Castillo is also a dedicated body puncher. Pac would be the smaller man, and isn't as good to the body.
     
  10. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    I wasn't really pushing a point as far as anybody beating him.

    Floyd simply hasn't fought anybody like that. You have to put pressure on this guy, the guys that got closest all did that. None of them were southpaws. I'd like to see it, it would be interesting.
     
  11. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Castillo was the only guy to come close to beating Floyd. Floyd was coming up in weight, was at a distinct size disadvantage, and was going against a good body puncher. It will be much harder for Pac to pressure Floyd as he is the smaller man and can't push him around like Castillo did. Now put Floyd in there with Williams, and things get real interesting.
     
  12. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    I keep hearing about the negatives involving Floyd Mayweather`s career, notably his only ever close calls with Castillo (1st fight) & DLH.

    What I dont hear quite as much is the fact that FMJ supposedly had an injured rotator cuff (whatever the **** that is) vs Castillo & said he would do the job easier when fully fit in the rematch & left absolutely no doubt in winning a clear UD...... or I rarely hear that DLH was the bigger man, had fought at 154 lbs for the past 7 or so yrs & FMJ had no business even being a WWT never mind a 154 lber & he STILL beat Oscar at a weight were Oscar felt real comfortable.

    Lets not get carried away with Pac`s victory over DLH (who for what its worth put on the worst performance of his career while Pac rose to the occassion like a true legend) because if Pacquiao ever fights Mayweather... my money is going 100% on FMJ as he is plain & simply the better boxer/fighter.


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  13. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    I don't think they do to be honest. Williams is open, he's slower, he'll just be a sucker for counters because he is fundamentally flawed. I see another Quintana like effort, and not the second. I think Floyd would be easily able to maintain distance and throw right hands over the jab, and lead right hands would be effective.

    I'd much prefer to see Pac buzzing in and out with speed, showing angles that are going to make him more difficult to counter, whilst also throwing a lot of punches to try and outwork the guy. I'm not saying he'll achieve it, but to me its interesting. It's not about bullying for me, Hatton tried that as a basic tactic and he didn't achieve anything.
     
  14. SuperFloyd100

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    Demarcus Corley Got a Major Asswippin and hes a south paw?
    mannys defence isnt up to scratch with floyd.
     
  15. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    True, the southpaw right hook has done damage to Floyd. Corley was landing alot of straights as well of course. He buckled Floyd's knees knocking him backward with one in the 3rd. And Judah legitmately hurt Mayweather with a straight left in the 4th.