Examining Manny Pacquiao's SIX (6) VADA-Tested Fights...

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  1. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    See this is deluded man. Mayweather was never hurt in that match against Pac. Mosley rocked Floyd to his boots but Pac didn't ever have him in a similar way.

    You can say he was smaller, you can say he was past prime and you can say he was injured - although that's on him if he's stupid enough to fight hurt - but you can't change what actually happened which was a comprehensive loss to another generational talent. You seem to think that the loss damages his legacy far more than I do. I think he's just fine despite it.
     
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  2. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Who gives a ****? He wasn't hurt he was barely stunned if that. Is that some kind of moral victory for you? Pac lost the fight with badly. You Pac fans are some of the strangest people on the internet. No wonder you have a site called Pacland that is dedicated to him, get a grip.
     
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  3. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    If that were only true. Pac's the most disrespected elite fighter of his era. Why do you think NO ONE ever talks about Floyd's illegal IV use? Why do you think NO ONE ever talks about Floyd's ultra low T/E ratios?

    Why do you think Teddy Atlas and Paulie Malignaggi and numerous other boxers so publicly and relentlessly accused Pacquiao of PEDs, but never Floyd who has far more red flags? Why do you think no boxers or journalists have ever outright accused Marquez of being on PEDs?

    If Pacquiao had received 750 ml of IV fluids or hired Memo Heredia, the universe would implode.
     
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  4. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    That's all you and people like Danger ever talk about you have spammed the forum with over a dozen threads about this over the years. Are you high or insane??? :facepalm:
     
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  5. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    Floyd wasn't hurt? That's why he went straight to the ropes to take flush shots to the head and body? Did he do that with Mosley when he was hurt?

    Why do you think Floyd initiated 20+ clinches? Because Pac didn't hurt him? Remember, Floyd walked down Mosley, Maidana, Ortiz, Berto, and even Canelo.

    You cannot discount the injury or the fact that Floyd used illegal IV fluids. Just like you can't discount the bum knee that Sergio had when he fought Cotto. In doing so, you clearly are handing out free passes.
     
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  6. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    I think you need to take a deep breath and realise that a lot of what you're saying sounds seriously paranoid. Lots of people talk about the IV. It's all over this forum every day. The Marquez obsession is unfortunate too. You can't bang on about his suspicious behaviour in light of any real evidence and then cry about people suspecting Pac.

    FWIW I think Mayweather, Pac and Marquez have all prob been chemically enhanced at some point if not for the majority of their careers. There was too much money involved and testing too lax for people to resist the advantages IMO. I could well be wrong but that's what I think. 00's boxing was like baseball IMO.
     
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  7. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    Biggest fight in the history of the sport and your boy clearly cheated and came in using illegal IV fluids. The same way you perpetually discredit Margarito's victory over Cotto because of the handwraps controversy.

    Floyd was chugging water at the weigh in and then was on video eating, drinking, and laughing the same night.

    Why did he need 750 ml of IV fluids?
     
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  8. Pimp C

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    I discredit Margo because he was suspended for loaded gloves. PBF has passed all drug tests and has never been suspended. Big difference there.
     
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  9. Pimp C

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    LFMAO!! So you're trying to tell us that PBF was more hurt against Pac than he was against Mosley? Are you really going to sit here and make such a ridiculous statement? You will say anything to further your agenda. You see why everyone here sees you as a troll?
    PBF was much older and faded when he fought Pac than when he fought Mosley even still he was hurt against Mosley and almost went down he was not hurt against Pac.
     
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  10. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    Do you read w/ any comprehension? I'm not spewing conspiracy theories.
    • Marquez hired a PED expert who boasted of creating undetectable PEDs (fact)
    • Marquez put on a lot of muscle (fact)
    • Marquez dropped Pacquiao and stopped him after hiring a PED expert (fact)
    • Marquez showed up to the Alvarado fight w/ a massive amount of acne on his chest and back (fact)
    • Mayweather received 750 ml of IV fluids in his home and received a retroactive TUE from USADA (fact)
    • USADA banned BJ Penn for receiving 50 ml of IV fluids (far less than what Floyd received) that was administered under the care of an actual doctor and was suspended and fined (fact)
    • Mayweather accused Connor McGregor of cheating by using illegal IV bags (fact)
    • Pay attention to the last 2
    • Teddy and Paulie have NEVER accused Floyd or Marquez of PED use; yet they've openly and publicly and loudly accused Pacquiao of PED usage despite the fact that Pacquiao is the only one of the three that has completed and passed VADA testing and performed exceptionally well in the ring (fact)
     
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  11. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    Floyd had the T/E ratio of 100 year old men for 2 fights. Clear sign of PED use (same situation as Lamont PEDerson).

    Floyd used illegal IV fluids (for no identifiable medical reason because there was none) and received a TUE from USADA, the agency he demanded be used and privately contracted with.

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    You're not dumb. I know that you believe he was a drug cheat. You're just willing to give Floyd a pass for cheating.

    :deal:
     
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  12. tealt

    tealt Boxing Addict Full Member

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    These types of threads are just like other comparisons such as Jordon-Kobe, MJ-Prince, Messi-Ronaldo. The most vocal fans are the ones who are trying to convince others that their guy is actually better than the one who is clearly better. It's almost like being second best is worse than being just average. Maybe seeing a shrink is in order.
     
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  13. Ph33rknot

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    may stunned Manny in the 3-4 made Manny fight more cautious the rest of the fight
     
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  14. Str8ryte

    Str8ryte Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pac is on peds and floyd was on peds. Thats the world we live in, deal with it. I already got banned once for cussing your dumbass out. Dont make me whip it out because ill leave you looking like a **** victim on SVU.
     
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  15. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Where your evidence to support your case. Pukka provided facts, number in mls , Numbeor of bags used and made comparisons of others being banned for the same thing. etc. You are just making up statements without providing factual evidences.Stop blowing farts in the air.


    Dayum! Them are hard hitting facts and evidence right thurr. They can't deny dis fo sure.
     
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