Vic, I'll go one further. He wasn't even a judge. That was Ben Greene, a buddy of Ortiz' manager Bill Daly. I too heard he had to run out of Panama after that verdict. He sometimes gets confused with a British referee named Ben Green (no 'e'), but I knew him as a boxing columnist for a publication called the sporting news.
Oh, so it stinks even more... and this Bill Daly guy was called "Honest" Bill or something, I can only think that it was a matter of irony that nickname.
There was nothing honest about Bill Daly. Even Carlos Ortiz had nothing good to say about him in a conversation i had with him.
Teddy for being kicked off ESPN for being biased for Pacquiao instead of Jeff horn AND how he somehow NEVER talks about it, like he has a rule that he can't talk shite or he'll get sued jmo... Either that or he's filled with integrity!!!
I have to choose my words carefully, but I went to an AIBA convention one year, and after the boxers, journalists and sports officials had enjoyed dinner, various people handed out awards, announced donations and made speeches. The head of the AIBA then gave the closing speech, and said a very large donation that had been announced earlier should have gone to him, rather then the association as a whole because he worked so hard and he deserved it. There were one or two people in the audience who I knew were corrupt who nodded and clapped his speech. That AIBA head was later sacked for corruption and eventually the Olympic committee had enough and barred them from involvement in the games. If you really want to see corruption in sport, focus on the administrators.
Nobody has mentioned the US Title Tournament yet that Don King rigged up with Ring Magazine? Fighters who were inactive getting phantom fights added to their record? Boudreaux getting the nod against LeDoux (and Cosell getting his toupee' swiped off)? People getting rated who weren't even main eventers in their hometown? Biff Cline's dad betting against him and then throwing in the towel against Elson? It just goes on and on and on. Epic corruption that we probably only heard a portion of.
Wasn't Teddy always a little bit opposed to Pacquiao though? I remember him yelling over and over that Thurman was inactive for two years when Pac won their fight.
My least favorite is the pay to lose guys padding 95% of fighters' records. Beat up a bunch of guys who don't get paid if they win with pathetic records like 0-7, 1-12, 3-14, or 4-21 or even more dubious. A popular boxing influencer has a record of something and 0 with wins over guys who had a combined record of 5-397 or something. Not exaggerating. It's not only tantamount to fight fixing, it is fight fixing. They hire guys with known reputations, records, and mangement who knows the game too. It's the scummiest thing and I hate to see it training with a fighter then I go to watch them fight and they are against a pay to lose guy in some roach motel asking $50-75 for a ticket. It has boxing looking dumb often when a 17-0 guy is completely untested and looks like **** in their first real fight. Everybody with a cache of funds seems to want to buoy a fighter to 15-0, 20-0 and see if they can find a nice little payoff loss.
it is fight fixing. there is no other way to describe it. it won't change, just know what it is and make money betting on fixed fights.
Miguel Donate scoring Fenech v Nelson I for Nelson 116-112. Donate was clearly on the take. Dave Moretti, who was a known crook scoring that fight a draw was bad enough. But Donate didn’t even try to hide the fact that he was fixing the result.
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This isn’t even true. He got fired for insulting Mark Kriegel and questioning his credentials on a live broadcast, sharing the booth. Teddy is either a sociopath or something very close to it.