I'm pretty sure Thompson was ring rated, so your wrong again! Outside of Mormeck, the others were big men who could punch.
Go back to Conn's KO%. I'm right, he was not a puncher. Were any of those guys you mentioned over 200 pounds?
Oh, do you have to ko men over 200lbs to qualify as a puncher. How many did Liston Dempsey Jeffries Marciano Johansson Langford Turn the trick with? God you really do make a complete ass of yourself here don't you!
I'm asking if any of the men Conn stopped were over 200 pounds pre Joe Louis. If you can't answer that, and pivot away as usual, my point is made. Conn's KO Percent was very low. Stop acting like a fool, and just admit it.
Franklin blew his shot when he was knocked out by moderate punching Pastor.This has been extensively debated here earlier in the year.I think you made the thread? You got the **** kicked out of you as I recall!
Mcvey, I challenge you to say any of the below is not true: Off the top of my head, the following fighters either floored or stunned Joe Louis. Ko'd by Schmeling, could not recorder from the first knockdown as the video shows. Stunned by Tommy Farr, I think it was round 9 or 11. Farr was not a puncher at all. Floored by Jimmy Braddock, who was out of the ring for two years and was not close to a puncher. Floored by the short and fat, Tony Galento. Galento could punch, but he wasn't very skilled. Staggered by Billy Conn, who was under 170 pounds. Close to going down. Floored by Buddy Bear, and was fortunate he didn't fall out of the ring and hurt himself. Louis did something of a summersault over the ropes landing in a safe spot if memory serves. Floored three times in two fights with Walcott. Louis is very lucky the 10 point must system wasn't in use for the first fight, which 2/3 of ringside reporters gave to Walcott, and the crowd loudly booed the decision when it was given to Louis. Floored twice and brutally stopped by Marciano, though Louis was clearly past it for this fight. What can we make of the above? The best-skilled fighters Louis fought in Schmeling, Walcott and Marciano each floored him multiple times. Modest hitters like Tommy Farr, Jimmy Braddock, and Billy **** shook Louis up or floored him. Sloppy fighters like Tony Galento once ranked as higher as #1 in the world ( He would not be close to top ten today ) caught Louis as did Buddy Bear. Conclusion: Louis did not have a good chin by championship standards, and he's fortune there were not many skilled big men in his time. Aside from having a mediocre at best chin, his footwork was slow and mechanical, his guard low, and he fought with a stick you face forward type of style. However, no one should say Louis didn't have the heart. His will to press on under tough circumstances was excellent, best seen in the first Scheming fight, or the butchering he took vs. Ezzard Charles who didn't floor Louis, but really did a paint job on his face, repetitively beating Louis to the punch despite giving up height, weight and reach. Result Mendoza once again clubs McVey.
Oh sure, Franklin was ring rated on and on a roll. The old wait for a guy to lose and never face him. Louis fought many guys who lost often for title matches! I will make quick work of you, reply back to the points I made in post #98 and say they are not so if you can.
Hey fool, 2/3 of those scoring at ringside said Walcott won. Have you ever seen the film footage? There is a thunderous boo when the decision was announced. In MSG, which was Joe Louis' house of boxing. Take note, Louis looks like a loser with that body language. PS: No you only think you're smart. Your alleged a 137 IQ, has to be one of the biggest bunch of BS ever stated on this board. PPS: My age doesn't matter, I watch far more boxing than you do, and a lot of the footage is even older than you are. When I ask you to watch the video and score something you always run away. Reply back to the post I asked you to, if you have the smarts for it!
1.Kod by Schmeling . Yes,hit after the bell from which he never recovered hit flush with multiple right hands before he finally was stopped. 2.Stunned by Farr.NO 3.Floored by Galento .Yes Ko'd Galento 4.Momentarily stunned by Conn .Yes 5.Floored once in two fight with Buddy Baer.Got up and ko'd Baer At no time did Louis leave the ringhe was half in half out . 6.Floored 3 times byWalcott when past his prime Yes.Walcott took out Charles with one left hook Marciano ever manage that in 2 tries? 7.Floored and ko'd by Marciano when 37 and washed up .Yes What can we make of it? We can conclude without any fear of contradiction that Louis was only stopped twice in 69 fights once, when he was pre prime and over confident,once when he was an old man and should not have been fighting. You can spin it," any which way but loose ", nobody here really gives flying **** about your pet hates and well documented obsessive prejudices against Black fighters such as Johnson,Louis, Ali,and Frazier.
This is a situation where short clips might actually be useful. If we had some clips of the biggest, sharpest punches Louis ate, instead of references to overall fights, it might be easier to get a handle on things. The only clip that I've seen so far had Louis being staggered and stunned by Billy Conn! There have to be better examples for those who think Louis had an excellent chin and additional examples for those who think his chin was suspect.
Yes, I've seen the available footage of both Walcott Louis fights I bought them as part of a Joe Louis collection in the 60's. Take note Louis stated in his autobiography he had no doubt he had won the fight.And he reiterated this in the TV program when sitting next to Walcott! You attempting to give a definitive verdict on a fight you have only seen highlights of is absolutely ludicrous. Klompton ripped you a new arsehole the last time you propounded this absurdity! I consider myself of average intelligence which obviously puts me way above you!lol
So you can't disagree with a thing I said, except where you were wrong. Bawhahahahaha. CHECKMATE again Tony and leave your racist crap at the door. And Yes Farr did stun him. Check the film. We know you don't watch them. Ali and Holmes are rated my #1 and #2, you bigot and I said this long before your name soiled this forum. You agree with me on Frazier, by the way.