Excellent question regarding Floyd's OSDT demands!!!

can somebody tell me why when Tyson asked Holyfield for blood testing it was no big deal? when Mayweather asked Mosley its no big deal?

But when he asks Pac he's attacked, hes chicken, whats he gonna ask for next, its unprecedented, its awkward etc, etc, etc...

WTF is the big deal if he were to take a blood test 14 days out and after the fight? That wouldnt even be close to random olympic blood testing, yet hundreds of athletes at the olympics just went through it right up to the day of their event without making a penny or making a big deal about it.

 

you're ****ing dumb mate. why the **** would you refuse to take a test, the same test as floyd mayweather would take?. so what you're saying is to refuse a simple random test leading up to the fight, and in doing so it'll cost you multi millions that you would of got for accepting such a simple test. i tell you what, you're ****ing dumb as **** mate. i'll be like, take as many tests as you want, and i'll collect my money later. pacquiao refused to take a test, and i'll like to know the real reason why because i'm not buying that "i'll be weak" bull****.

 

That ^

 

How am I dumb?

Clearly Mayweather asking for the testing is a bit over the top. But Pa agreed to this testing and should have no problem taking the test after he AGREED to do so.

You clearly misunderstood what I said because I am on Mayweathers side.

I merely stated while Mayweather's asking for the test was a bit stupid. Pac should of never originally agreed to take the test in the first place.

 

What you said was full of thoughtful analysis and reasonable conclusions from said analysis. In the end, you can't definitively say if Manny is in the wrong or right. The only conclusions you can come up with are:

-- The current circumstances are unique
-- Requesting testing is reasonable

You will be attacked by *******s shortly...

 

how is what floyd asked for being stupid? if floyd really believes that pacquiao is taking something, then wouldn't the stupid thing to do would be to allow pacquiao to maybe use those advantages against him? floyd basically said he'll take the fight, but he wants pacquiao to take the same tests as him to prove their both two phenomenal boxers that are naturally great, but instead pacquiao didn't want to do that by a certain time frame. floyd said he'll meet half way (seems fair to me) pacquiao refuses, and arum makes the clottey fight way too quick for my liking. if you got all the elite fighters, most would take the tests, the others, well, they must have a very good reason to refuse such a payday, and being too weak 14 days prior to the fight due to a blood test is bull****.

 

First of all, money isn't an issue for Floyd. He figures he can make a ton of money by fighting Shane which he will. Secondly, why ask Manny and not the others? It's because there really isn't a "perfect time." If he had asked Marquez to take the tests, JMM fans would throw a backlash. You see? Floyd will always be condemned for anything and everything he does, even if it's for the greater good. What people need to focus on is the fact that somebody is actually doing something to make a change in order to clean up the sport of Boxing. You can't fault a man for making an extra effort to make sure everyone gets a fair fight. Credit has to go out to Floyd because at least you can say by submitting to the tests himself you are highly, highly confident that he is clean. Can you say the same for other boxers?? And there is no double standard because he is making Shane as well as his future opponents take the tests, not just Pac.

I don't think Floyd wanted to throw away the fight. Why put a big risk on your undefeated record, reputation, and career? After all, Pac has already sent two guys into retirement and I'm sure Cotto is even more damaged after the punishment he took. If Floyd gets Pac to take the tests and he still loses, at least he can say Pac won fair and square. If you get destroyed by a cheater you won't be able to live with yourself realizing that you could've prevented disaster from happening. Besides, asking for up to 7 random blood tests in a month is not out of the question. Part of it is for a psychological advantage. Some ignorant folks might say this is dirty but I see nothing wrong with it. Getting into your opponent's head is part of competition.

 

Because olympic style testing for the first time in professional boxing.

Look. I want the fight made and I think dropping the blood testing will do that.

But Pac should of never agreed to the testing, since he did. I fully support Mayweathers side after Pac agreed to the test.

 

I have seen a few of your posts, so I am not challenging your position but asking a question.

Why is doing something that is "better" considered "dumb" because it is the first time?

Your logic is almost like: We are bed buddies no commitment. Condoms have always been around and we never used them. We never got pregnant or caught an STD, though we know many couples who have. You asking to use one is "dumb".

Huh?

 

boxing tests are so crap we need tests like these to be implemented in boxing, so i have no problem with it. floyd shouldn't be asking for these tests to be done, they should already be done to cut down on cheaters. drugs are getting better, it's about time boxing tests should also change for the better.

 

Because this is the biggest fight in boxing history. While I do feel extra testing is better, if it means not doing it for this fight then lets do that.

So many fans are blinded by what Pac says, they believe anything that comes out his mouth. Despite the fact that we all know the blood taken would be minimal compared to the disease test the NSAC takes.



I merely want to see the fight. While Im not against the extra testing, I think Floyd asking for it, for this fight was over the top but once Pac agreed. I didn't care.

I merely want the fight to be made.

 

Dude I can't wrap my head around the logic. If we agree that the sport is supposed to be clean and we know even better testing is out there. How can we ever defend not granting an athlete's reasonable request to use more stringent testing standards? :huh

 

They should already be in boxing. I agree completely.

But they aren't, and I want the biggest fight in boxing history to be made and to see it.

I dont think Manny is on anything so for dropping the extra test for this fight is fine by me.

 

You are just anti-anything that stops this fight from being made. It was just an extra hurdle, but since Manny agreed to jump it? Let's get it on.

I just don't see how any improvements can be made to a sport if we make a test against reasonable safety related requests. This, IMHO, was reasonable.

 

What Mayweather asked for was reasonable but it came out of nowhere.



Look. If it means dropping this blood test to make the fight. Let's do it.

But the blood test do need to hit the sport. Or proper urine testing, as look at NSAC they dont test for EPO.



Anyway. Pacquaio agreed to random blood testing up until the fight, that's a fact.

He set himself for this and he should go through with it.