Excellent question regarding Floyd's OSDT demands!!!

How rich you calling anyone dense when you fail to understand basic English you *****. I'll simplify it for you, the very thing that makes him extraordinary is the same thing that makes him a suspect of foul play.

 

Wrong. His final compromise was unlimited random blood testing until 24 days before fight night and one immediately following the fight, and unlimited urine testing with no cutoff as administered the USADA.

Get your facts straight before you join the conversation. This is grown folks talking.

 

I think it did. Based on the stats provided earlier, the higher the weight he rehydrated to, the lesser his KO percentage was:

FW to LW (14.37 lbs of average rehydration)

Morales lll / Barrera ll / Marquez ll / Diaz = 50% KO percentage

LWW to WW (7.16 lbs of average rehydration)

Dela Hoya / Hatton / Cotto = 100% KO percentage

If you consider the punch output, *compubox has this to say:

At lower weights:

HIS OUTPUT AT 122-126 & 130-135 INCREASED FROM FLYWEIGHT, BUT WAS AROUND EACH WGT. CLASS AVG.

At LWW and WW

HIS PUNCHES LANDED AT 140-147 (LAST 3 FIGHTS- VS. FUTURE HALL OF FAMERS COTTO & DELAHOYA AND BORDERLINE HALL OF FAMER HATTON) MORE THAN DOUBLED (UP 123%) HIS FLYWEIGHT NUMBERS, WHILE PUNCHES THROWN ROSE 36%. HIS PUNCHES LANDED AT
140-147 ARE 53% ABOVE WGT. CLASS AVG.

From the compubox stats, we can say that Pac's performance in terms of punch output has increased significantly when he's figting close to his ideal weight.

* http://compuboxonline.com/news.php?...ategory_id=6&parent_id=6&arcyear=Y&arcmonth=M

 

The initial post is idiotic because Mayweather isn't "broke" for one, and also happens to be the biggest draw in boxing and as such is making a substantial amount of money fighting another elite fighter in Mosley instead.

Whereas Pac decided to fight a journeyman.

Blood-testing up until 14 days before the fight was incredibly reasonable, considering how close to the Hatton fight Pacquiao gave blood.

Mayweather made so many concessions to try and push the fight through, Pac wouldn't budge on such a minor factor that would be EXACTLY THE SAME FOR PAC AND MAYWEATHER. It takes pretty much any level headed person to realise Pac has something to hide.

Consider the e-mail Pac sent Mayweather asking for a privacy clause should Pac test positive.

I know it hurts to realise your hero is a fraud but it couldn't be spelt out any clearer.

 

Top 5 WW isn't exactly a journeyman

so is 24 days

yes, 24 days before the fight

The fact that Pac offered to be tested above and beyond what the NSAC requires shows that Pac also made concessions to make this fight happen.

There is zero proof to this. If such an email indeed exist, you would have thought the Mayweathers or GBP already leaked a copy to the press.

In the civilised world, it's innocent until proven guilty and not the other way around. Also, allegations don't count as proof without hard evidence.

 

fair points, but...

1. berrera, morales and marquez are a completely different class of fighter than (old) de la hoya, hatton and cotto so maybe his ko ratio has more to do with this. who knows?!

2. comparing sizes, hatton is a natural lww we know that right? hatton is not ripped or built like a tank, this is how we know he is a natural lww. now while pacquiao only has a slightly smaller frame than hatton, however, pacquiao is built like a bodybuilder so i personally dont think pacquiao is a natural at these weights. hatton works hard to get down to 140 while pacquiao works hard to stay there, without going over the 145 mark even when the limit is 147 i may add. i think pacquiao is fighting at the highest possible weight he can, and he is fitter and stronger without losing any speed. i may also add that he is 32 years old... how can a 32 year old throw 1200 hard punches a fight @ the maximum weight limit he can reach and not get tired? even when roy jones moved up to HW, his workrate in that fight dropped because of the extra weight he was carrying and he was an amazing athlete.

 

Floyds a ***** and so are his fans.

 

Post of the day!!!! 10 points to you sir, just for taking the time to think that one up atsch

 

It depends on what kind of blood test is taken. When you lose blood, you lose plasma (mostly water), and red blood cells (carry oxygen throughout the body). Plasma can be replaced by taking fluid and goes back to normal in about 2 days. It take at least 6 weeks for the body to replace red blood cells though. Endurance would be affected most by this because of reduced oxygen delivery.

With the olympic style blood tests, they only take a small amount so that the athlete is not weakened. Cyclists are all about endurance, but they take those tests before a race, and their performance is not compromised.

All this depends on how many tests are taken though, so if they have to take a few tests, than it might become a concern. In the 2008 Olympics, Osafa Powell was complaining that he was weakened after he had to take several tests before a race. Usain Bolt was also tested several times, but he set the Olympic record for the 100 meter dash.

 

:good

 

Pac fans that defend Pac for agreeing to random blood testing then changing his mind on what he wanted 6 billion times are bitches.

 

any response to this Crax Sellerman? or are you gonna wait for someone else to make a good point and then jump on their back and call everyone a ******?

 

...or it could be because Pac wasn't comfortable at the lower weight hence his performance (at least based on the KO ratio) was affected

Hatton walks at Cruiserweight so I don't think LWW is his natural weight.

Wow! I learned something new today

The traditional thinking when it comes to training is for a boxer to try to squeeze himself to the lowest possible weight class and then rehydrate to be a lot bigger than his opponent during fight night. The disadvantage of this method is that fighters have to punish their body just to make weight. Just because Pac is doing it differently and getting success from not doing it the traditional way shouldn't be treated as evidence of PED use. Remember, Pac has a whole team of conditioning experts (yes, Ariza isn't alone) that help him train scientifically.

Pac's training regimen is legendary and I think that is the main reason why he can sustain that kind of workrate. Also, just because Joe Bloggs can't do it isn't evidence that John Doe shouldn't be able to do it as well.

 

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whats the point of the commision ?

should we just let the mayweathers run it ?