Excuses when Pac beats Soto

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  1. Silvermags

    Silvermags Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    if pac losses it's called an upset coz he is in his prime! no excuses. if pac wins there are a lot of excuses from pac haters just to take out the credit from pac..

    funny thing is that some haters say this and that about pac and they don't realize that the boxer they are bashing is currently the #1 p4p! :yep

    just to show you their views (pac haters) is totally different from the majority who voted pac is the #1!
     
    Silvermags, Jul 14, 2008
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  2. DobyZhee

    DobyZhee VIP Member

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    umm silvermags...he unofficially lost to JMM in his prime, but that's besides the point.

    Since when does losing in your prime automatically make you less of a great boxer?
     
    DobyZhee, Jul 14, 2008
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  3. SweetScience

    SweetScience Accuracy is the key! Full Member

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    DOnt even listen to Amsterdam. He's hasnt done ****. He's basically an arm chair sports fan.
     
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  4. Sting

    Sting Akagami no Shanks Full Member

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    Oh believe me, there are ALOT more excuses thrown to discredit Pac than excuses thrown for Pac. Aside form the first Morales fights what other excuses does the Pacfans have used on other fights? On the other hand, you have alot of people trying to downplay alot Pac's wins. Alot of excuses thrown especially in the Morales trilogy and the 2 JMM fights. There are even some people who think that MAB was already way past it by the time he and Pac fought the first time.

    So let us be realistic here. Don't tell me your already blind to this stuff just because some "*******s" has gotten into you.
     
    Sting, Jul 15, 2008
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  5. bclassiks177

    bclassiks177 New Member Full Member

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    Who has valero beaten mosquera, and who has soto beaten rocky juarez, so you know he can take punches. I personally think soto is the bigger challenge tough customer got good pop, look what he did to lorenzo's face. Soto Pacman is a better fight then watching pacman beat up on valero.
     
    bclassiks177, Jul 15, 2008
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  6. Silvermags

    Silvermags Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i never said that. did i?

    i just said it soto wins. Congrats to Soto that's all!
     
    Silvermags, Jul 15, 2008
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  7. theunderdog

    theunderdog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    that's pretty good company. i won't mind being compared to any of those guys. all atgs.
     
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  8. Silvermags

    Silvermags Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    YES! in your DREAM! :good
     
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  9. theunderdog

    theunderdog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    wow. you are both underestimating and overestimating pac. gets killed by soto but it waaay too much for hatton?

    what the **** are you on bud?
     
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  10. saul_ir34

    saul_ir34 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    We probably would have seen Soto fight Pac instead of Diaz but Arum backed out of that fight. The Soto-Diaz fight was almost made but Arum decided not to go through with it. I guess Diaz was much easier for the title.
    I hope Arum gives Soto a chance at PAc too. Did you happen to log on as Black before? Because me and him talked about how we thought Soto would give Pac hell. I have been saying for a while too.
     
    saul_ir34, Jul 15, 2008
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  11. theunderdog

    theunderdog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    cute.


    however, you still haven't given any reason at all why soto will be more trouble for pac than hatton. all you have are claims. soto is going to do this, hatton is no match for pac. you have said nothing of susbtance. at all.

    what part of soto's style would bring trouble for pac? it is a fact that pac does not do well against fighters who are dirty. who clinch and punch on the back of the head, and headbutt and use their elbows. watch pac versus agapito sanchez and skinny hussein. pac does not know what to. hatton will do exactly that. mug pac. add to that he is naturally bigger/ he has never fougth below 140 in his entire life.

    soto on the other hand is an okay kind of fighter. not that fast, not that powerful, not that technically good. please enlighten me on why a natural 130 guy will be more of a threat to champ at 135 than a natural 140 guy whose only loss was against pbf at 147.

    maybe if you could, i'll go back to wrestling.
     
    theunderdog, Jul 15, 2008
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  12. theunderdog

    theunderdog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1. hatton is much bigger and much stronger than pac and soto. disciplined meaning?
    2. pac like pressure fighter. he loves them. he hates people who use the ring like jmm. pac will feat on anyone at 135 and below who does not know how to move around the ring. that's why it is a consensus that the toughest match for pac at 135 is joan guzman. the same fighter you defeated your boy.
    3. how can soto make pac fights in angles awkward to pac? it's the other way around. soto has never fought a fighter as fast as pac. he will not know what hit him. and soto does not bring anything new to pac.
    4. yes, hatton has poor defense but his dirty tactics will give him an advantage over pac. plus pac's power will be diminished at 140 because hatton has taken punches from stronger fighters than pac.
    5. pac has more footspeed than pbf? now that's just plain dumb.
     
    theunderdog, Jul 15, 2008
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  13. theunderdog

    theunderdog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    where are you?
     
    theunderdog, Jul 16, 2008
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  14. jupzrooni

    jupzrooni Tyler Durden Full Member

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    LOLOLOL:rofl
     
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  15. SweetScience

    SweetScience Accuracy is the key! Full Member

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    :lol: :lol: :rofl :rofl :rofl :lol:
     
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