Excuses when Pac beats Soto

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  1. SweetScience

    SweetScience Accuracy is the key! Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  2. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    I hope there will be no excuses....

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  3. batang kanto

    batang kanto ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    enzo is well too ahead of his time :yep
     
  4. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    I can see the future...
     
  5. batang kanto

    batang kanto ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    ..and take pictures from the future too.
     
  6. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ill go with number three for $1,000 Bob.

    Soto is like most of the guys that Pac has fought since starting to move up. Smaller guys that are moving up with him. Its smart matchmaking, but for me the only problem that I have with Pac. Except for his moronic sackswingers.

    130 he fought JMM who started at 118
    MAB who started at 112
    Solis who started at 112
    Morelas who started at 122
    Larios who started at 112

    Pac only fought one TRUE superfeather and that was a crappy 10 lose fighter that had been knockedout in half those loses.

    I thought that the idea of moving up was to fight bigger fighter, not to have those fighters move up from smarter weights with you.

    Look at all the sh*t that Mayweather got for fighting Hatton at 147, yet no one cries about Pac doing the same things.
     
  7. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pac isnt an iron chinned fighter. He had to be and has been very careful with whom he has fought.

    Fighters that I bet my house on that I can name you fighters that Pac will never fight.
    1.Nate Campbell
    2.Joel Casamayor
    3.Edwin Valero
    reason???? 82 wins 71 by knockout:bbb
     
  8. batang kanto

    batang kanto ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    edwin valero ought to be the fighter he'd meet on nov. had it not been for medical reasons
     
  9. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This is a stupid post. Who cares if MAB and Morales started at 112? They ruled 126 & 130 and thats all that matters. Thats like syaing you wont give Tarver credit for beating Jones because Jones is not a true 175lber, hes actually a JMW, or that ODLH is not a true WW, hes a LW. One should get more credit for beating David Diaz who started at 140lb than beating Pac cos Pac started 106.

    Point is, if you prove you can handle the weight specially by becoming champ then you are that weight. Morales for exampbe beat Hernandez and Jesus Chavez at 130, Chavez who started at 135. What is that saying?

    The PBF-Hatton fight is completely different. That was a big showdown but it was proven Hatton wasnt very good at 147 and many would have been picked to beat Hatton at 147, no one at 140. Simply put, MAB, Morales & JMM proved themselves the best at 130, Hatton didnt prove himself the best at 147.
     
  10. theunderdog

    theunderdog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    nate, maybe, but pac will fight casamayor and valero given the chance. what does valero have? really. he knocked out a bunch of bums with the exception of mosquera and that dude floored valero. why will pac avoid a crude version of himself? it's just like when pac lucero at 122. people were saying that lucero had great power because he was knocking his opponents out, pac made him look like a damn fool and those were the days when pac was still a bit raw himself.

    valero will be humiliated against pac
     
  11. theunderdog

    theunderdog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    my bad. mistook one for the other
     
  12. Silvermags

    Silvermags Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :yep
    It's like saying pac is scared of papa nate, papa casa and valero but is NOT scared to fight hatton. :huh


    Anyway, if for one reason or another pac fights any of the three. Take pictures of your house. Coz you will miss it! :yep
     
  13. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    this is so easy that I almost didnt reply. First off Tarver and Jones didnt move up to 190 to fight, had they done that and won some belt would have have made them THE champ the way that it has done for Pac?? Secondly Diaz is crap, and the only one building him as some great fighter are Pac sackswingers. that is about as impressive as hatton moving up and taking a title fighting Collazo at 147 who is a MUCH better fighter then Diaz. Which also would have Made Hatton at champion at 147 right???

    My point which seemed to have gone right over your head is simple I thought....Its not that impressive to move up in weight and fight guys that are moving up as well...What does that prove??? That you can beat a featherweight at the superfeatherweight limit???
     
  14. Sting

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    You also didn't seem to get dangerousity's point. Those guys that moved up with Pac, dominated the FW and SFW division, beating people NATURAL to those weights.

    Tell me what exactly is this massively large difference between beating a guy who had dominated the higher weights and beating people natural to those weights to beating actual people natural to those weights?
     
  15. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I this post says everything Ive got to say.

    Iehudson just dont get it.