Expert opinions on Frazier vs Tyson

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  1. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fight Advantages:
    Hand Speed-Tyson, Boxing Ability-Tyson, KO Power-Tyson, Size-Tyson, Defense-Frazier, Endurance-Frazier, Adaptability-No Advantage, Foot Speed-No Advantage, Strength-Tyson, Chin-Frazier Jab-Tyson, Cuts-No Advantage, Reach- Frazier(73” to 71”), Body Attack-Frazier:
    Total: Tyson 6-5-3

    By Boxing Expert, Jim Carney
    The ferocious Tyson floors Joe twice in the first round. Joe’s grit gets him through and he takes Mike’s heart for a kayo between round six and eleven. An exciting slug fest while it lasts.

    Heavyweight Action Boxing Expert Moontan:
    What a great matchup for the boxing fan. Frazier representing the boxing generation of the 1960s and 70s while Tyson has his following from the 1980s and 90s. Neither fighter were great boxers and both liked to come forward so this fight is not destine to last long. Frazier was much harder to hit although Tyson in his prime was very difficult to hit. Tyson emulated Frazier during his early years in the ring with his low head movement. Tyson was the stronger fighter with more devastating punches and ultimately prove too much for “Smokin”, Joe. Tyson within five rounds by knockout.

    Tie breaker 1-1

    Boxing.com
    Joe Frazier only lost to two men in his career, Muhammad Ali and George Foreman. Tyson fans point to the Foreman bouts, where Frazier was routed and repeatedly knocked down as evidence that Tyson too would be able to hurt and knock out Frazier. However, Frazier’s chin was actually quite good, as the Ali bouts demonstrate. Additionally, Foreman was a bigger – and harder – puncher than Mike Tyson, and more importantly, he was a much larger man.
    Tyson and Frazier were essentially the same size, with Tyson being more heavily muscled and Frazier owning a slightly longer reach. And a young Mike Tyson deployed many of the signature tactics of Smokin’ Joe. He would bob and weave, slip inside and unleash a ferocious left hook.
    One of the many classic boxing axioms though is that you don’t hook with a hooker. It means that when one fighter throws a great hook, you shouldn’t try to trade hooks with him, because his will surely land quicker, truer and harder. While Tyson’s left hook was lethal, Frazier’s left hook was one of the best heavyweight weapons of all time.
    Joe Frazier also had an indomitable will – George Foreman had to knock him down six times in their first meeting to stop him. Mike Tyson on the other hand was a classic front runner, and could be bullied out of his game plan. He didn’t like it when people stood up to him, and he crumbled under the returned pressure. And pressure is what he would face from Joe Frazier (unlike what he faced from Marvis Frazier, Joe’s son and mainly a cruiser weight fighter whom Tyson knocked out in 1 round).
    Frazier would get into Tyson’s face and would slip the majority of his shots. While the first half of the fight would see action going both ways, by the middle rounds Tyson would begin to be worn down and frustrated. Even if Tyson landed a solid and clean blow, Frazier would not be deterred. He would have to be knocked out cold to stop coming forward.
    Frazier would continue to work on Tyson, alternating between digging body shots and vicious hooks to the head. Eventually, one of these hooks would be too much for Tyson to handle, and he’d go down for the count of 10 somewhere around the eighth or ninth round.
    Joe Frazier had a more complete game than Mike Tyson, and a superior mental composition for an encounter such as this. In this proposed contest between two former heavyweight champions, Joe Frazier would win via knockout over Mike Tyson.

    And the winner of this match. And stilllll the world heavyweight champion, Joeeeeeeee Frayzaaaaa
     
  2. foreman&dempsey

    foreman&dempsey Boxing Addict banned

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    Chin frazier? I give it to mike
     
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  3. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Tyson is all wrong for Frazier.
     
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  4. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In my opinion Tyson's chin is way underrated. That said I think it's a Tyson bodyshot that ends the fight.
     
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  5. foreman&dempsey

    foreman&dempsey Boxing Addict banned

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    Stylistically tyson has advantage but Joe was no frágile marvis, he was a bull.anything could happen
     
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  6. escudo

    escudo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tyson catches him with the right hook to right uppercut one to many times. Make no mistake it will be many times, Joe's a beast but Foreman exposed this weakness in Frazier's style.
     
  7. UFC2015

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    A young Tyson wins this. Heart is not enough, Tyson has to many tools and will be all over him
     
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  8. Foxy 01

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    Boxing.com got it right. Between those two it would be all about heart, and Tyson's isn't even on the same planet as Frazier's was. Like a typical bully, he couldn't handle being bullied himself. Holyfield proved that to the world beyond any fear of contradiction after the excuse mongers refused to accept Buster Douglas had done it 6 years previously.
     
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  9. Pugilist_Spec

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    Heart did not help Frazier beat Foreman. It only got him an ungodly beating. Frazier was a slow starter and there to be hit, Tyson was a quick starter and a superior puncher to anyone Frazier ever faced. He was bigger, faster, more athletic, better defense, and a more varied offense. Frazier was the better in-fighter, bodypuncher and had better stamina in the late rounds put this is not going past the first few.

    Tyson by KO, early.
     
  10. Jobo1878

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    The only advantage Frazier has/had over Tyson was stamina. I personally dont think the fight would last long enough for it to be a factor.
     
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  11. JohnThomas1

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    I think Tyson is way wrong for Joe. Tyson by stoppage for me. Absolutely.
     
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  12. itsa

    itsa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A lot of alts exposed ITT.....




    Tyson ko 6.
     
  13. Azzer85

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    Tyson within 2-3 rounds.
     
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  14. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Frazier: wouldn't stay down and couldn't be cold ****ed by some of the hardest shots in history by quite possibly the hardest puncher of all time.

    Tyson: Knocked the **** out by THE LEGENDARY Buster Douglas

    Yup Tyson had the better chin.
     
  15. swagdelfadeel

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    This. :deal
     
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