Frazier maybe didn't cut but his face also could be swollen! Ali said Marciano was better than Joe Frazier. (Interview with Howard Cosell, on Youtube) George Foreman rated Marciano higher, pointing out that Frazier had a great left hook but Marciano could hit equally hard with either hand. Archie Moore was asked to compare Frazier with Marciano, just prior to Joe’s fight with Jimmy Ellis. Moore said, “Frazier is a big, strong kid, but he’s no Rocky Marciano. Marciano was the strongest man, bar none, that I ever got in the ring with. And I fought some strong men.”
Nope he wasn't and manshrunk when he got older! Prime Louis was even bigger than thag old and had more muscles on him!
So you are saying prime Louis was bigger with more dimensions than that overweight bulked up old guy holding the bag? I'll take a pound of it thanks.
Yes he was! Again people with age,lost their height and size! Prime Louis was bulked with muscle even looks bigger than this who shrunk and was just fat!
Peak Louis was 6'1 1/2" with a 76" reach and about 200 pounds. Peak Liston was 6'1 with an 84" reach and about 212 pounds.
Peak Louis was 6ft 2 with reach 76 while Liston was 6ft with 84 inch reach! Louis was 197-205 in his prime and Liston was 209-212! That proves that Liston got longer hands but he was not bigger man! Louis is taller and wider man
Why not stretch things a little further. Louis was 6'3 and Liston 5' 11". Louis in his greatest performance was sub 199 pounds. Depending on how you like 1 and 2 Liston was either 213 or 215 1'2. Liston is simply bigger and arguing to the contrary is quite frankly embarrassing.
Louis made 207 just once before the war. By the same scale Liston's prime was about 211-218. He's comfortably 10 pounds heavier minimum every day of the week.
John, you appear to forget that putting an exclamation mark after every sentence gives a post much more credence.
Joe Louis was one and a quarter pounds under 200lb against Max Schmeling, but even by then he had weighed 200lb or higher nine times already! Louis was a big man who trained down. In the nine fights Louis had of the 1941-1942 season, his championship prime, Louis was over 200lb in all but one fight where he was half a pound inside 200. His weights were 202, 203, 202, 201, 199, 202, 206, 207 so he was hardly sub 200lb fighter anymore. Saying Sonny Liston was a bigger fighter than Louis is really a negligible point. He was a big man, a monster compared to Patterson though. But so would have Joe Louis by comparison.
Louis was 6 feet one and a half inches.Liston 6 feet one inch. Liston was bigger in Neck Chest Biceps Forearm Fist Reach He was the bigger man,and it's not even debateable.
He was not! He just had bigger wrist and longer hands! Louos was taller and had woder shoulders even when he was older he looked much bigger than Liston! Tyson also had bigger fist,biceps,neck....than Holyfield but was he bigger than Holyfiels?
I refuse to continue with someone debating out of complete intellectual dishonesty. Better things to do with my time. Good day.
